Michigan Camaro Club show this weekend

[Jeff Murphy]

Cool. I was wondering when that car was going to get out of your shop. I bet they are going to go nuts when they see it. Send pics!!

[lzdick]

Brian,
Do you have any pics from the show? How many cars in attendance? The had always pushed to be the largest all Camaro show (in excess of 200 Camaros the last time I attended).

Rich

[bkhpah]

We got back from the show late Sunday. the car count was over 200 but unsure of the exact number. The judging for the show was really poor. We took the Arons/Berger SS/E superstocker and had it judged. The judges deducted for the car not having a spare tire and told us we would need that or tools. or something even a trailer spare to get the points! I saw other race style cars grabbing junk parts to get credit. I just told the judges I would not compromise the restortion for a few points. The car still won its class, but thats a major issue. The same judges told Fran Roberts that his COPO was excellent, but needed to clean up the overspray on the manifolds etc...Can you believe that one! There was a few very nice cars there, but very slim on original or restored 1st gen cars. We do not go to shows for trophys and some of the cars we took didn't even get judged, but I would say that we would not take cars there again...BKH

[Postsedan]

Brian,

Yes, this is becoming a bigger problem with our sport/hobby/profession. I`m sorry to hear your story and I understand your concern. Their are many judging criteria that I and others do not agree with. It must me difficult for these show promotors to find the "Best" specialty car judges? I wonder what there pay is, if any? Perhaps this is where the problem lays?

Dan.

[bkhpah]

I found it funny that guys can take a cruddy tailer tire and get full credit while the restored class guys hunt dated wheels, jacks, NOS spare etc. I am hot bashing the show, but this was a Camaro only deal and you would think the judges would be prepared...BKH

[lzdick]

Brian,
You can only believe it when you see it first-hand. In past years, the judges for that show were "Corvette club folks" and weren't terribly knowledgeable on the Camaro. I recall taking 'Ol Yella, my Daytona Yellow '69 RS Z/28, and was docked points for 'tire condition' on my original Wide Tread GT's...I guess they prefer shiny new re-pops. They got me for the engine overspray, too ('Vette folks should at least know that). And don't forget your fire extinguisher is one bonus point!

How did you like the length of the awards presentation...hence the name "Super long Fest"?
Jeff Betz was responsible for that 'very appropriate' title. He would kid about everyone getting an award.

Class #132:
<font color="blue">"1969 Camaro, original restored, convertible, rally sport with power steering, power brakes and rally wheels only"...one car in the class...winner is... </font>

Did you take any pics at the show? I would like to see the cars you took plus others you viewed as nice cars.

Thanx,
Rich

[sYc]

IMO, this is why most shows should shy away from judging. It is very hard to get enough qualified judges, and when you do, when done correctly, can be very time consuming. Leave the judging to the larger shows who have the resources to do it right, such as Vettefest,Carlisle, Nova Nats, etc.

I was faced with this for SCR, and decided the best course of action was to not judge the cars. Seems to have been the right decision, as not only has it worked for the SCR, but other shows have copied the idea.

[ORIGLS6]

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Arons/Berger SS/E superstocker........ The judges deducted for the car not having a spare tire and told us we would need that, or tools, or something even a trailer spare to get the points!.........I just told the judges I would not compromise the restortion for a few points.

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The same judges told Fran Roberts that his COPO was excellent, but needed to clean up the overspray on the manifolds etc...

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We do not go to shows for trophys,...... but I would say that we would not take cars there again...

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