1969 Scuncio COPO

[Rat_Pack]

Okay guys there have been a few posts concerning an original Scuncio COPO. For the past couple of weeks I have been in contact with a guy that supposedly does have an original Scuncio COPO. The story he has relayed to me is this car has 10,000 original miles and is a drag car/show car. It no longer has the original drivetrain but does have a 427 engine it now. The car is an original X44 big block car with all the correct stuff for a COPO on it. I know these can be changed. However he has been in contact with Bob Johnson and so far the car is what he says it is. He is in the process of getting ready to sell it after getting other proof of its history.

He will not allow me to give out anything as far as the vin goes, but the trim tag is stamped the following:

711 10 10
05A X44

The vin is very close to the one on Ebay, and I knew about this car before the one on Ebay showed up. If you are interested in this car email me and I will put you in contact with the owner. The price on this car is $55k as it sits...................RatPack....................

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

This isn't the car that Bob Harris restored several years ago is it??
M

[Rat_Pack]

Don't know, he never mentioned it being a restored car. From his descriptoin it is more of a street machine, no tubs or anything like that. He is sending some pictures later this week. Can update then.

Do you know who owns the car that you are talking about?...........RatPack....................

[Rat_Pack]

Just talked to the owner and I asked him if this car was restored by Bob Harris, he said no and he does not know who he is. He is not one who keeps up with who does restorations. The engine is a 427 with aluminum heads. This is definitely not a project car. He has traced the history all the back to the original owner and the car did come from Scuncio. He has so far gotten a phone verification of its origins as a COPO. Will have more towards the end of the week hopefully............RatPack......

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

Rat;
I don't know who Harris sold that car to, but I remember it being a 10 10 car, 10k miles, and orig. from Scuncio.
M

[William]

I have w/s, pop & body brodcast copies for N647907, a black COPO from Scuncio.

They charged $12.65 for the paint.

[Rat_Pack]

Marlin, was that car a drag car that Bob did?

William, not the same car but the vins are close................RatPack............

[SuperCars]

Ratpack, thanks for keeping us informed. I'm just bewildered by all these COPO's that keep popping up. I haven't seen them in person so I don't know the degree of restoring or correcting that some of these cars need, so I hope my input isn't taken wrong

I do know what the costs are to have cars restored though. Between the numerous Supercars, Vettes and Hemi cars I've had restored, I've experienced the cash flow drain doing them. I have 3 cars in process of restoration at this time. I feel any car that needs more than minor detailing and good cleaning is a project. It might not be a basketcase, but still a project that consumes money. When various COPO's don't have the original drivetrain, I think Uh-Oh; are we talking:
Correct casting and dated 427 motor-$8,000
BE rear-$3,500 if you can find one
499 distributor-$600 restored
4296 carburetor-$500 restored
curve neck radiator-$700 restored
Muncie 4 speed-$1,500 restored
These items could be just a start. Then the actual restoration of a Camaro without having to re-buy these rare parts is approximately $35-40,000. So add buying a correct drivetrain and maybe you hit $50,000 more into the car. I haven't seen a excellent restored COPO top $70,000 in sales yet. Has anyone else?

Still doesn't mean the buyer of a running driving COPO has to do a complete frame-off. He could do a frame-on cosmetic restoration at a lot less money; but then you end up with a car that is worth a lot less that people would say needs re-restored.

The COPO on eBay right now has a lot needed. At the current bid of $30K, it is my opinion that the buyer will go backwards on this car
because it will exceed $40,000 to do it right. At $55K for this Scuncio, a buyer could not afford to have it restored. He could do some cosmetics, but he would always have a COPO that people would think as a poor quality car that needs to be re-restored. But these are only my opinions.

[SuperCars]

$55K as it sits......I don't understand why some owners put prices on project COPO's close to or more than, prices/sales of completely restored, correct drivetrain, documented COPO's??? Maybe the word "sits" is a description of it's future.

[bkhpah]

The Reggie COPO just sold for 73,500 and I have been told by all the looked at the car it was a tired older restoration. So 70K into a fresh correct restoration at todays prices would be a bargain...BKH