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Old 04-29-2008, 10:02 AM
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Default Re: russo and steel chop job camaro copo

WAIT A MINUTE..., Why is it so hard for everyone to figure out who is responsible for misrepresenting the cars that are sold at auction?

Before everyone starts screaming, I'm going to post the definition of MISREPRESENT, so others don't twist this into something it's not. Lets not go off into every direction with different scenarios on how cars are not what a buyers expected. LETS STICK WITH MISREPRESENT.


—Synonyms Misrepresent, distort, falsify, belie share the sense of presenting information in a way that does not accord with the truth. Misrepresent usually involves a deliberate intention to deceive, either for profit or advantage: The dealer misrepresented the condition of the car. Distort implies a purposeful twisting or emphasizing of certain statements so as to produce an inaccurate or misleading impresssion: cleverly distorting the facts to create an impression of his own innocence. Falsify suggests a tampering with or alteration of facts, records, or documents, especially with the intent to cheat or deceive: He falsified the birth records to conceal his age.

THE RESPONSIBILITY FALLS ON THE SELLER, NOT THE AUCTION HOUSE AND NOT THE BUYER. If a seller represents a car as a COPO, Yenko, ZL-1, etc., it dam well better be a real car. And PLEASE don't give me that lame excuse that some owners of high end cars don't know if it was "rebodied", or "cloned" previous to them owning it. It seems that the auction house is the way to pass rebodies, clones etc. and to say "buyer, shame on you, why did you not ask questions before you bought that car" is ridiculous.

Look at ebay, they have what's called a dispute console where you can report and resolve problems. When you open up a dispute page it says in bold type "ITEM NOT RECEIVED OR SIGNIFICANTLY NOT AS DESCRIBED PROCESS". Think about it for a minute, why would they place "significantly not as described" with "item not received"? Answer: because there is not much difference in that if the seller sent you something that was not what they advertised, it would be no different then sending you anything at all.

Anyone selling on ebay knows that misrepresenting their goods leads to being kicked off and having their account closed. IT IS THE SELLERS RESPONSIBILITY TO ACCURATELY DESCRIBE THEIR ITEMS FOR SALE.

I believe I read somewhere in this thread that the owner of this rebody was charged the commission, and rightfully so, the auction company did their job. I think that is more than fair for all parties involved. By the way, why is it the auction company responsibility to verify or inspect any vehicle? If the seller had delivered what they advertised, there would be no issue, and I'm sure the buyer would not dispute this fact. Now, if you are lame and don't know if your car was rebodied or is a clone, hire an expert before you take it to auction, therefore saving yourself time and money.

This car was listed as a real COPO with paperwork. I DO NOT SEE ANYTHING THAT SAYS IT WAS A BEBODY, and to say the seller had no clue, is no excuse, and needs to take responsibility.
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