Barrett-Jackson 2008.....

[Charley Lillard]

TA was a very low mile car but cars were bringing great money for what they were.

[Z-11 396]

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TA was a very low mile car but {{{ cars were bringing great money for what they were }}}.

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++ Lilliard ++ Does that included the << Corvair's >> too.!!!!!!!!.???????????????????.. ..Kasey

[Charley Lillard]

Kasey...I didn't see the final price but there was a corvair wagon that I think I saw at about 8K before I got sidetracked and didn't see it end. I thought it was strong money for about a 64 wagon.

[TMagda]

There was a red 1979 TA, 400, 4 speed (desirable) w/ 300 miles that sold on ebay a few months ago. I think it went for mid 30's. I had a '79 403 auto in 1979. Kept it for 3 months - total POS. I alway thought the '79 400, 4 speed was considered the last "desirable" TA. It is to me anyway. $63k for a 301 turbo is shocking. I am so priced out of this hobby.

[king_midas]

Un-verified, but I have heard that in Vegas the casinos put "plants" at slot machines in high-traffic areas that win a lot...

I know nothing more than those cars were about the worst GM F-Bodies ever built; they are total crap, no performance, rattletraps with tacky decals. I don't care if it had 7K miles on it, whomever bought it either wanted their 20 seconds of fame, or won the Powerball.

Any early Turbo T/A or Formula is a candidate for worst car ever, and viable evidence of approximately when GM de-railed.

[Late BrakeU2]

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Un-verified, but I have heard that in Vegas the casinos put "plants" at slot machines in high-traffic areas that win a lot...

I know nothing more than those cars were about the worst GM F-Bodies ever built; they are total crap, no performance, rattletraps with tacky decals. I don't care if it had 7K miles on it, whomever bought it either wanted their 20 seconds of fame, or won the Powerball.

Any early Turbo T/A or Formula is a candidate for worst car ever, and viable evidence of approximately when GM de-railed.

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Don't sugar coat it,how do you really feel? Seriously though at 70k with juice that's about 3X what that car would normally bring.For the same coin you could have a 10th annie W72 4spd with similar mileage AND a Y84!

[1970Bluel78]

Some guy I knew had one of those Turbo T/A's. What a turd.

[StealthBird]

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I know nothing more than those cars were about the worst GM F-Bodies ever built; they are total crap, no performance, rattletraps with tacky decals. I don't care if it had 7K miles on it, whomever bought it either wanted their 20 seconds of fame, or won the Powerball.

Any early Turbo T/A or Formula is a candidate for worst car ever, and viable evidence of approximately when GM de-railed.

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Well, considering the 70-81 Trans Am's were FAR better cars, with more power, better handling, better build quality, and nicer interiors than 70-81 Z/28's, I guess that puts the 70-81 Camaros and Z/28's just beneath the AMC Pacers and Gremlins on the old hiearchy chart.

The 80-81 Turbo T/A's were slow, very slow, but in 1980-1981 they were considered fast. The 210 hp rating on those cars was accurate, but without much torque, it's pretty hard to push a 4000 lb car with 301 cubes, even it it was helped by a turbo. Buick got it right a few years later....

The Turbo T/A only had to compete with the likes of 170 hp Camaros, Corvettes, Citations, and other rolling embarrasments like the infamous Hurst/Olds W-30, or the gelded AMX, or a host of other cars we'd all like to forget. Face it, everything pretty much sucked during those years.

But at least the 80-81 Turbo Trans Am's remained performance cars during this dismal era. They remained the best handling cars in America, they came with 4-wheel disc brakes, and are remembered for being one of the more beautiful cars from that time period. Probably half of the people that bought those cars didn't have a clue about all the research and work that went into creating an aerodynamic tour de force, with functional spoilers, extractors, and how the WS6 suspension was a source of jealously amongst the Chevrolet engineers. To most buyers, it just looked cool.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but considering the 80-81 Special Edition black/gold cars are going for $40K+ now, it shows that even though these cars, while slow in the 1/4 mile compared to 1960's standards, are now bringing prices equivalent to restored base 64-72 GTO's, 442's, GS's, and Chevelle SS's.

Different strokes....

[Mr. Chevy]

It is amazing how some things bid high and others that look like really nice, good, solid buy cars will not do a whole lot.. Like that 70 L78 Nova mentioned above.. For example just can't see how that does 50k and what I though was hideous looking that stretched out, customized gold T-Bird did like 80k I think it was was.. Makes me sick, but I guess it is all in peoples tastes and what turns them on!! Definatley not for me!!

Rich

[mockingbird812]

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I know nothing more than those cars were about the worst GM F-Bodies ever built; they are total crap, no performance, rattletraps with tacky decals. I don't care if it had 7K miles on it, whomever bought it either wanted their 20 seconds of fame, or won the Powerball.

Any early Turbo T/A or Formula is a candidate for worst car ever, and viable evidence of approximately when GM de-railed.

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Well, considering the 70-81 Trans Am's were FAR better cars, with more power, better handling, better build quality, and nicer interiors than 70-81 Z/28's, I guess that puts the 70-81 Camaros and Z/28's just beneath the AMC Pacers and Gremlins on the old hiearchy chart.

The 80-81 Turbo T/A's were slow, very slow, but in 1980-1981 they were considered fast. The 210 hp rating on those cars was accurate, but without much torque, it's pretty hard to push a 4000 lb car with 301 cubes, even it it was helped by a turbo. Buick got it right a few years later....

The Turbo T/A only had to compete with the likes of 170 hp Camaros, Corvettes, Citations, and other rolling embarrasments like the infamous Hurst/Olds W-30, or the gelded AMX, or a host of other cars we'd all like to forget. Face it, everything pretty much sucked during those years.

But at least the 80-81 Turbo Trans Am's remained performance cars during this dismal era. They remained the best handling cars in America, they came with 4-wheel disc brakes, and are remembered for being one of the more beautiful cars from that time period. Probably half of the people that bought those cars didn't have a clue about all the research and work that went into creating an aerodynamic tour de force, with functional spoilers, extractors, and how the WS6 suspension was a source of jealously amongst the Chevrolet engineers. To most buyers, it just looked cool.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but considering the 80-81 Special Edition black/gold cars are going for $40K+ now, it shows that even though these cars, while slow in the 1/4 mile compared to 1960's standards, are now bringing prices equivalent to restored base 64-72 GTO's, 442's, GS's, and Chevelle SS's.

Different strokes....

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Nice commentary - I enjoyed the story!