value of a ZL 1 clone with a real ZL1 motor

[69LM1]

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Without that original engine, then what makes the ZL-1 Camaro so desireable? It is just like another Camaro with TI, M22 & HD 4:10 axles, an iron block COPO would be just as valuable.

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I Agree. I'd rather have a proper "clone" with a real ZL1 driveline than a "ZL1" with a "Clone" driveline.

My 02.,
Rich

[427king]

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Agree. I'd rather have a proper "clone" with a real ZL1 driveline than a "ZL1" with a "Clone" driveline

[/ QUOTE ] Wow, someone had an OD of certified LM1 exhaust fumes...

[69LM1]

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Agree. I'd rather have a proper "clone" with a real ZL1 driveline than a "ZL1" with a "Clone" driveline

[/ QUOTE ] Wow, someone had an OD of certified LM1 exhaust fumes...

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What I'd really like is a LM1 car with a ZL1 Engine (Hey! They both end in 1's!). Certified, of course.

[Charley Lillard]

Uhhh..OK. So if a real documented ZL1 with wrong engine and a clone of a ZL1 with a real ZL1 engine were both offered to you for the same price you would take the clone.

[L78M22Rag]

I'd be interested in your take on this scenario...
I've been trying to buy a local car off a guy for a looong time. The car is rare (but non-matching), so I've spent years tracking down its original motor in case I eventually get to buy the car - I followed a lot of rumors and went down a LOT of deadend roads. One day... there's a motor for sale in the local paper and (after recognizing the VIN) I buy the motor... its never been decked and all original! I've been straight forward with the owner of the car telling him that I found and bought the car's original motor. I still want to buy his car, but now he wants to buy the motor... and the car continues to sit on a couple of flat tires - as it has for the last twenty years (at least its not outside anymore).

So now what should I do?

[iluv69s]

Hey L78.... you should keep in touch, but you should wait it out!!! I guess it depends on how old you are...but I bought the original motor from my ZL-1 many years before eventually purchasing the car...The owner of the car actually found me...and called and begged me to sell him the motor every couple months...we actually became friends and I actually went and saw the car years before he eventually decided to sell... I always joked that he was older than me and that i would buy the car from his son once he died...(thank God that didnt happen...I'd really feel like crap now)...anyway, as the saying goes...Good things come to those who wait. Good Luck!!! What kind of car is it anyway??

[Charley Lillard]

Make him a very fair offer on the car. He might then at least start thinking about what he could do with the money.

[L78M22Rag]

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Make him a very fair offer on the car. He might then at least start thinking about what he could do with the money.

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Charlie, I've been increasing my offers since 1991! Last Christmas I offered him the chance to buy the motor on a shotgun basis. I figured the motor was worth about 20% of the overall value (if motor is worth 20% of a restored car... 20% may be low based on a car needing a total restoration). To keep him honest, I asked him to make me an offer for the motor - both of us knowing that his price dictated his value of the car. If his offer was fair - I'd sell the motor. If he low-balled me, I would then be able to buy the car for the other 80% of the value. He led me to believe that he was going to call back and give me his offer... but a couple days later his wife called and claimed to want to buy the motor for him as an anniversary present without him knowing. The fact that he hasn't called back since tells me he put her up to it. Six months later she called back - again trying to buy it for their anniversary... how many anniversaries do some people have?

I really had good intentions to work a fair deal with him (either buying or selling)... now I'm thinking about building a clone of his car and dropping the motor in it.

[iluv69s]

Hey Helmut,

I have an idea that has worked for me a few times...send someone else over to make an offer on the car. I tried to buy a 67 RS-SS for atleast 10 years from the original owners and they would never sell...maybe I insulted them the first time by offering 1000 dollars for thier car...but when I sent my brother there to make an offer, they sold him the car for 1200 dollars...I had actually raised my offer to 1500 dollars at one point. Ya just never know.


ps... I'll be glad to go over and make an offer if you cut me in as a partner!!!hahaha

good luck!!!!

[Charley Lillard]

Even better...Make her a offer for the car. Then SHE will start thinking of what they could do with the money.