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Old 03-21-2007, 03:56 AM
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Check out the altered wheelbase on the Dodge. The front wheels were moved forward a couple inches. Same result as moving the engine back. If you aint cheatin' you aint trying!
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Old 03-21-2007, 05:13 AM
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Nice pics Glen, did you happen to get a shot of the 427 in the 63?
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Thanks - I know I had some,unfortunately I have not run across any photos of the engine - if I do I'll definitely post it

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Glenn,
Those are great shots. I'm glad that as a 15 year old you were so inclined to use your camera! I've been a student of the development of the MKII and MKIIs for some time, and your knowledge of that engine is impressive. Most people don't realize it began life as a 396 prior to the 7 liter rule. Mr. Dick Keinath, a senior engineer at Chevy, was responsible for the entirely new design. The engine shared the same pan rail as the MKI (409), but nothing else was interchangable with a MKI or the later MKIV.
I hope you find more photos to share.

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Those are some incredible photos of Rex's shop and car, the kind you just never see. Thank you very much for sharing them. We all really appreciate it. I had a couple of '61 bubbletop cars earlier in my life and read all I could find on Rex White. He sure did a lot for Chevrolet back then.

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Yeah, that Dodge is interesting. Note: headlights, windshield wipers, hood scoop,no rollbar (?), what looks a little more like street/drag tires? I don't know much about NASCAR history but did any of the Dodge/Plymouth teams actually run w/ the 2% suspension mods on the speedways?

It looks a little more like a drag car/street car to me. Anyone know any more about it?
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That Dodge is definitely not a NASCAR racer, unfortunately I do not remember anything about it. NASCAR was involved in Drag Racing and that may have been a drag car out of Owens garage. If you look closely into the garage door (past the chained NO ADMITTANCE sign) the car inside looks as it may have the NASCAR decal package on the front fender. The front wheel also sits properly in the wheel well.





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Old color racing pics from the early to mid '60s. Wow, those are neat and rare! The race Hemi was banned for Nascar Grand National racing in '65 and so Chrysler boycotted and sat out '65. That is when the Chrysler teams went drag racing and Nascar sanctioned drag racing events for them. Ford obviously dominated the '65 Nascar Grand National season. There was basically no competition. The tables turned in '66 when Chrysler brought out the street Hemi which made the Hemi legal again in Nascar Grand National. If I remember correctly, Ford attempted to combat the Hemi with the SOHC engine and Nascar said no deal so Ford boycotted the '66 season. Well, I hope I got that right. This was a bad stretch for Chevy so I wasn't paying as close of attention.

Back to the 427 Mystery engine, a couple of years ago Chevy had one of these engines at the LA Auto Show so I had my picture taken with it. I'm not sure if it was owned by GM or if it was on loan from a private collector. Man, the exhaust manifolds on those engines are some of the neatest ever made.

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P.S. Got any pics from the '68 Daytona 24 hour or '67 Paul Revere 250?
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The NASCAR races we went to were the Daytona 500 and the Southern 500 in Darlington. I have some shots from those years but they are probably up in NY. I'll be up there in a few weeks and look and see what I've got. Unfortunately most all of the shots are long range like the ones I posted. I was working with some pretty basic stuff back then, still do.
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The glory days when race cars looked just like the street version! I wonder if that red Coronet had a Hemi?

Great photos Dog.
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