1967 Z/28

[Zedder]

Hey Joe...rather than wallow in the mud, I'll go with my understanding of '67 Z's and Jerry MacNeish's certification and gladly give you what you paid me for the car last October

This is a very nice, driveable '67 Z guys...someone should pick her up!!!

[Pacecarjeff]

Legally speaking, that is all a seller is responsible for.
Refunding the original purchase price.
I am sure last october this car was sold for "all the money".

What does Jerry's certification say about the stamp pad?
Does he certify this stamp pad as being the original? I wouldn't think so.

No doubt in my mind at all - this is a genuine 1967 Z/28, with a real MO 302 engine.
It is a gorgeous car, that anyone would be very lucky to own. I would like to myself.

I just can't see this engine starting life in this car.
Especially since the engine post-dates the car.

[1967Z28]

I work with Jerry on the '67 Z28 Registry and also with the CRG group. When you gather enough data, you see that 06E is a oddball build week that ran longer than usual for some reason. We have seen this with other months and in other years. There are very few 07A '67 Norwood cars. There are at least 7 06E-built '67 Z-28s with engine stampings in July. The latest 06E car has an V0706MO engine in it. I understand the initial skepticism but it is unwarranted. This car is a nice, legitimate '67 Z-28.

-Jon

[Pacecarjeff]

Hey Jon,
Based on your professional experience, are you certifying that this engine stamp as THE original born with stamping?
Or, are you just saying the original engine was stamped this way, and this was possible?

We all know this is a nice legitimate 1967 Z/28 - NO QUESTION.
I am asking you directly: In your professional opinion - from working with the Z/28 registry, and the CRG.
IS THIS THE ORIGINAL ENGINE AND VIN STAMPING?

Would really like to hear this from the CRG.
I really like the car, this is just a real weird one???
We all know that anything was possible, but is this a true example?

[1967Z28]

I'm not a certified appraiser. I guess my opinion should carry no more weight than the next guy but this block pad looks legit to me based on many others that I have seen over the years. That is just my 2 cents worth, which is maybe all it's worth.

-Jon

[427king]

I dont think anyone would touch that subject or give thier guarantee.I cant really blame them. Im sure any appraiser will have plenty of clauses in his inspection clearing him of any errors or misjudgements.Alot of what is stated would be based on "experience" and similar cars and criteria,not on written guarantees. Alot of people use to assume that since a corvette got a top flight, that the ncrs was verifying the engines as being original. They may not deduct any points for a stamp pad on the judging form , but they would never guarantee they were right either,which is being realistic

[Zedder]

Jon, thanks for giving your opinion and sharing some of the info that you and Jerry have collected over the years. I too can understand the questions, I just hate to see people infer that the engine is a restamp without having the experience with '67 Z's to make that judgement or having seen the car in person. Everyone has to remember that these were very low production car and odd things are seen with them all of the time. Maybe they ran short of engines in 06E or something to cause a delay for a few days??? Here is a better pic of the pad that my inspector took prior to my purchase. For what it's worth, he is an NCRS master judge and used one of Jeff's broach busters for viewing the pad. He then took this high res pic with a macro setting. This pad is beautiful!!!

[Jeff H]

Great information on the 06E week Jon. I've heard of the problems with the 06A week with the 69 Camaros and how many cars have later dated engines. But I had not heard about the 67 06E week. It almost sounds like they left the trim tag stamp 06E on into the 1st week of July.

[Rick H]

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I just hate to see people infer that the engine is a restamp without having the experience with '67 Z's to make that judgement or having seen the car in person.

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I never used the word "restamp". I am just questioning how a car built in one week can have a motor built the following week. Plus just because it's a Z/28 in my mind doesn't matter. It was ordered just like all the other Camaros and rolled down the same assembly line.

Plus you can speculate all you want but the truth of the matter is that unless there is substantial paperwork to support the later motor the car will always be suspect. It's just a fact.

Other then that the car is extremely nice.

Rick H.