A Picture's Worth a Thousand Words...

[427TJ]

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This photo is meant to piss us off. Images such as this one are also meant to keep us fighting (among ourselves) about how the flag is displayed/treated/signed/disrespected/etc. What we're not supposed to do is ignore such images and start asking our political representatives difficult, uncomfortable questions about illegal labor and why American business is hopelessly addicted to it and then finding out the truth: politicians on both sides actually have no intention whatsoever of stopping it or even slowing it down.

If this issue even lasts until the midterm elections in November, you can bet it goes away once the elections are over.

[jfkheat]

I put a lot of the blame for all the illegal workers on the companies that hire them. If the government fined these companies $10,000 for every illegal they would stop hiring them. If the illegals can't get jobs here, they will stop coming.
James

[GOAT72]

In Fairfax VA, some people started photographing the work trucks that were stopping to pick-up the local illegals as they waited in a parking lot.
Pretty soon the trucks stopped coming in the morning because the people taking the photos were threatening to send them (including their tag numbers) to the INS and the IRS.

In my town there are anywhere from 30-60 immigrants, all Mexican, waiting in a shopping mall parking lot 7 days per week. The cops sit there and watch all morning.

So, there are police officers being paid to monitor them. And now the town is paying an interpreter to sit there as well.
Then there are the court records published weekly and the births recorded -- every week the scale seems to tilt on the side of Hispanic names. Stabbings, DUIs, driving without license, no insurance, domestic abuse, theft, drugs arrests, shoplifting...it goes on and on. This used to be a quaint little town.

Check this out:
www.thewakeupamericafoundation.com

[71-LS6]

I keep hearing that it is physically impossible to deport 11 to however many million illegal immigrants. I'm just a dumb-ass redneck, but wouldn't requiring green cards to be displayed, upon EXITING their 500,000 strong, demonstrations be a good start? As a single family homebuilder for the last 20 years, I have purposely refused to hire cheap illegal immigrant labor. For my troubles I have lost 75% of my business over the past 5 years, as most of my competitors have just looked the other way, and gone with the cheap labor. One more fact to take note of; they are not just filling jobs in the unskilled labor arena. Many of these guys are showing up as carpenters, electricians, dry-wallers, plumbers, ect. ect. If this trend continues, you can draw your own conclusions. 25 years ago, this topic was no big deal, as ranchers along the Rio Grande, lost the use of their legally owned property, to hordes of smugglers and job seekers. We need to get a handle on the border now!
LEGAL IMMIGRATION followed immediately by ASSIMILATION.

[Belair62]

If anny [censored] politician who looks at the picture of the Mexican flag on top of ours does NOT get pissed off he should be sent back with the illegal people. It's time for this country to take a stand. I like what Teddy Roosevelt said. I'm married and have children with a Mexican American woman...and she agrees. Her mother came across the border illegally back in the early 50's. She came here to make a better life for her kids. And STAYED here and became a citizen. She did not go back and did not send all her money back there either. These people are USING this country. It is NOT their country. They will never really consider it THEIR country. Put up the damn fence....make people come here the way they are supposed to.

[nuch_ss396]

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If anny [censored] politician who looks at the picture of the Mexican flag on top of ours does NOT get pissed off he should be sent back with the illegal people. It's time for this country to take a stand. I like what Teddy Roosevelt said. I'm married and have children with a Mexican American woman...and she agrees. Her mother came across the border illegally back in the early 50's. She came here to make a better life for her kids. And STAYED here and became a citizen. She did not go back and did not send all her money back there either. These people are USING this country. It is NOT their country. They will never really consider it THEIR country. Put up the damn fence....make people come here the way they are supposed to.

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Now, I like this opinion....

[427TJ]

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If anny [censored] politician who looks at the picture of the Mexican flag on top of ours does NOT get pissed off he should be sent back with the illegal people.

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Again, CAPITAL LETTERS are for emphasis, not yelling.

Oh, the politicians are pissed-off all right, now that we're paying attention, they're just not going to do anything meaningful about this. Again, this is an election year and there will be plenty of political posturing when the TV cameras are running. Even if something gets through congress this year it will be toothless and slowly die on the vine, especially after November.

There isn't going to be any mass-deportations or any mini-deportations. The current status quo will continue: random capturing and return of small numbers of illegals while many, many more continue to bypass capture and enter the country and GO TO WORK.

Think of the immigration laws ALREADY ON THE BOOKS that are either not enforced or just simply ignored. With the current laws and any future laws the border is a revolving door and it will remain so. They can build all the "walls" they want to but American business desperately needs cheap labor, preferably non-citizen labor, and thus any walls will be bypassed one way or another.

Non-citizen labor means "Guest Workers" who have received "amnesty" from the president but who will be denied the rights and protections that American workers enjoy and fought hard to get. Looked at this way the whole illegal immigrant situation begins to make perfect sense.

The thought of putting up a wall makes us feel good about stopping illegal immigration but a wall isn't going to do much to solve the problem. It may slow down some of the flow but only temporarily until another means of getting across is found. For every tunnel the Border Patrol discovers there must be 5 to 10 more that go undiscovered. Once the wall is built there will be 100 tunnels, maybe 1,000.

Border Patrol agents routinely collect illegal immigrants day after day, night after night, give them a McDonald's hamburger, and escort them back to the border where they are released. They probably know many of the illegals well enough to say: "See you tomorrow." Talk about frustrating. The Border Patrol has to balance its law enforcement duty with the unspoken pressures from American politicians and business to allow the required number of illegals to get in. That's why the Border Patrol isn't larger in number and as well-equipped as they could be.

What it will take to stem the flood of illegal labor is a law that PUNISHES AMERICAN BUSINESS FOR HIRING ILLEGAL LABOR. Wanna' lay down money that such a law would ever so much as get to the floor of congress? NO WAY JOSE! Again, the president is pushing an "amnesty" bill at this moment and that should prove to anyone that what Washington wants, really wants, is to keep things as they are and allow illegals to be let off the hook. They stay here and are protected and allowed to continue to undercut the American worker. That's what the government wants.

These flag, etc., photos will keep on popping up and keep on pissing off everybody and we'll keep on discussing this and not one MEANINGFUL, SERIOUS thing will be done about the root problems of illegal immigration.

I predict that by this time next year, if not much sooner, we will have forgotten about this and we'll be talking about some other outrage.

Another case of SSDD: Same Sh*t, Different Day.

[69LM1]

427 TJ said it right. Like most of these "issues" there are many common sense ways to fix them for good, but the politicos don't want that. Know what it costs to run for political office in the USA? Not thousands, but in most cases, 10's of thousands of dollars. Where does all of this money come from? From the PAC's and Big Business, who in turn, need those juicy contracts and business protection laws from who else? The politicos, that's who. A vicious circle.

Fine the businesses who hire the illegals and that would stop the hiring, which would stop a large percentage of the illegals.

However, be prepared to pay more for that Micky D's Big Mac (We have seen a spike in the price of happy meals here in N.O., post katrina, even with the infux of our mexican neighbors from Texas).

[Verne_Frantz]

I don't think we'll be talking about a "different outrage". I think we'll still be complaining about trying to do business with people who do not speak ENGLISH.

On a related experience, I went to a boro public zoning meeting to discuss an application from a Spanish woman to open a hair cutting business in her garage on my street. I'll skip the many sorted details, but the thing that really left me with an impression was that she was here, in this country for 12 years (TWELVE YEARS) and she needed an interpreter (who was her new American husband). Even when she was asked (through him) a simple yes or no question, she replied "Si". He then said "yes".

Again, she was in this country for TWELVE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is VERY obvious that "they" don't want to assimulate themselves into this country and our culture. They're here because we've said, "come on over - we'll take care of you, no matter what" "you don't even have to DO anything but ask".

Man, I wish my life was that easy...........

I know how to solve the problem, but it involves illegal actions.

[nuch_ss396]

Verne,

They don't want to assimilate because they don't have to !
It's that simple. Re-read what I added earlier about my
two brother-in-laws. They could not work until they
assimilated their adoptive countries. We simply need to
do exactly the same thing here. Put a time limit on it.
No excuses!!!!!!

Regarding the Hispanic woman here for 12 years and not
speaking english, again, see my post about the company
where we had 3rd generation family members using broken
English at best. I feel your pain my friend!

Steve