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Just want to add some FACT to this conversation. The gentleman whao had this Shelby restored and sold it at BJ was the man Chip listed as "J". The car was sold to Mr. S. Kilian of Wisconsin. After purchasing the car in January in Scottsdale, he took the car home to use as a driver. Upon calling some of the people involved in the restoration of the car, he was made aware of the FACT that this Shelby was in the same condition as it was when it won the Premiere award and was by no means a car he should drive. Not wanting to own a trailer queen, he took the car to the RM sale in Monterey where I purchased it. The car then came to me and sat in my showroom for a few years. We took the car to a MCA Grand National event where it was judged in the Thoroughbred class, and won. We then brought the car back to our shop where it sat until Chip bought it. At no time did any parts come off of this Shelby. I have spoken with many Shelby (SAAC) Judges who know this car and have seen this car in the very condition in which it sits today. It is in THEIR opinion that this Shelby convertible is among the top 3 shelby convertibles in existence. One belonging to A. Freidel and the other belonging to Bob Gaines. It really bothers me that someone would get on here and try to degrade a car like this without having hard facts. This is a great car, and in my opinion, worth EVERY penny that Chip is asking. If I owned this car today, I can't say the his price would buy it. If ANYONE has any questions concerning this car, please feel free to contact Mike McCullough at 405-760-6732.
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I would hire one of the top Shelby judges in the country to go over the car in my presence if I was ever to buy it.
Photograph and document everything. Just my opinion. This is probably a good discussion for all collector cars in general, because the NOS parts are so valueable for all cars that harvesting them off the car and Repop replacements is big $. The average consumer would have no idea. The people hunting down and paying for these NOS parts are passionate about NOS vs. Repop - that is what seperates or gives distance from one cars quality vs. another. I could easily see a person looking at a car for sale on Friday, buying the car on Friday, having the car delivered the next Friday with different Repop parts that the average consumer would not know. Like Les said, get a judge to check the parts, then it would be settled. He was in no way degrading the car, just stating written Registry facts. |
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Nice thread....everyone's being very civil as these facts come out. . And Racefan's right, it is a similar to the thread where this situation was being discussed last week! . Regardless of the motor originality, it probably being worth the amount either way....when this car was "certified", although the engine replacement was a known and recorded fact by one group, was this and the restamp taken into account or was it thought to be the original engine by the certifying body? . Perhaps a "Restoration Motor" term is part of the paperwork all along? . Where along the line was the restamp not disclosed....I don't think Mike above mentions what he was aware of when he had the car? . And what's the mileage....is there a speedo issue here too??? ~ Pete
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