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You may want to ask your questions on a differant forum. Clones, no matter how well intended, are often frowned upon by legitimate owners.
Some friendly advice.
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While I do agree with Craig, I think with a newer car, like the one in question, one that will not see value increase for a long while, is quite different.
I would send an e-mail do the guys at GMMG. http://www.gmmginc.net/index.html -Dan
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Craig - Thanks for the friendly advice, but I believe this is a matter of intent and opinion. Allow me to clarify for better understanding. As a long time classic car restorer and collector, I condemn cloning with the intent to deceive or misrepresent. However, I do not believe there is anything wrong with changing the appearance of a car to suit your personal taste. Isn't that what hot rodding is all about? After all - isn't that what a select group of dealers did to create the Supercars we all know and love? I'm not trying to duplicate or forge documentation - I simply want the ZL1 stripe that runs down the center of the car. Anyone who thinks this is wrong needs a serious reality check. Without customization and personalization, these cars and the hobby as we know it would not exist.
Dan - I will try GMMG, but historically they have been quite protective of anything relating to these cars. Thanks! |
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I'm sure someone can measure one for you and take it from there...
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Absolutely, it is up to you to do what you want with your car. However, I certainly understand the other side of this. For a really intense discussion, check this out over on Camaros.net
http://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?t=59087 There is also a previous thread where brickyard69 talks about his old clone was being represented as a real Z/28, even though he sold it on ebay and represented it as clone. Next sale the trim tag was swapped out!!! Just some food for thought. Lynn |
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Thanks for the "food for thought", but there are many things you are not taking into consideration. This issue may have significance for classics, but it has no relevance to late model vehicles.
First, consider the authentication process of a classic vs. late model. Obtaining original documents on a 30+ year old vehicle can be difficult, and in some cases impossible. Verifying the authenticity of a 2002 ZL1 is quite simple. GMMG and/or the selling dealer can verify the VIN. Let's also consider the availability of parts. There are several items on the 2002 ZL1 that are not commercially available. The distinctions continue with how I intend to apply the stripes. As mentioned in my first post, I am having the stripes painted. The stripes on all 2002 ZL1's are vinyl. All of those cars had the B4C package; my car does not. They were all equipped with a 6-speed manual trans, and mine is automatic. The list literally goes on, and on. Another factor to consider is motivation. People clone and misrepresent vehicles for financial gain. The cost to accurately and completely clone a 2002 ZL1 would far exceed market value. Just some food for thought. |
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I was just reading this thread and thought I would chime in... As a few of you know that own one of these vehicles in question and others that have seen these cars in real life, Matt Murphy covered his ass with the documentation of these cars. All GMMG cars have a TAG in the door and most if not all have a number on the rear view mirror.. Plus the tag on the dash over the radio that reads which car it is and its number plus horse power.. Matt also has a list of the cars that he did and what were done to each of them at his place before they were shipped to the dealers or new owners of the cars. As for you making a clone of this car would be great, I dont see anything wrong with that. Its not like these cars are for sale everyday, and a lot of us dont have enough money to purchase one to begin with. I say build whatever makes you happy, but if you ever go to resale hopefully the new owner would get a car fax on it to see where it came from and where its been... Mark
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