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|  Re: Tenney's 64 Wangers GTO... 
			
			W  W...great car, amazing that it still exists and really love how it's a post car!!! I remember reading those stories too...Wangers sure had some 'hair raising' experiences!. ~ Pete  
				__________________ I like real cars best...especially the REAL real ones! | 
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|  Re: Tenney's 64 Wangers GTO... 
			
			Thanks, Pete. | 
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|  Re: Tenney's 64 Wangers GTO... 
			
			Did you really mean "factory fitted" 421s? | 
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|  Re: Tenney's 64 Wangers GTO... 
			
			[ QUOTE ] Did you really mean "factory fitted" 421s? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, do you know of one (or more)? | 
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|  Re: Tenney's 64 Wangers GTO... 
			
			That is one bad a$$ package you have there Tenney. How does it run today compared to your old L88? | 
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|  Re: Tenney's 64 Wangers GTO... 
			
			Thanks, Stefano.  There's more cam, compression and gear in the Goat, though a bit tough to compare as I've never tried it w/proper meats out back.  That, and I really don't grab it by the throat as fiercely as maybe some of the other stuff - but it's not boring. | 
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|  Re: Tenney's 64 Wangers GTO... 
			
			I thought the 421 was installed at Royal, not at the factory. | 
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|  Re: Tenney's 64 Wangers GTO... 
			
			Jim Wangers told me the car went from the line to engineering over a weekend for the 421 HO install - then went to Royal to be "Bobcatted". Per Jim, this motor was damaged in Florida during the C&D test, and replaced with another 421 HO upon return to Royal - again by Pontiac engineers. There's a Royal receipt dated 11/17/67 (signed by service tech: "Milt") for the 428 that's in the car now. 9770716 heads built '63-'64, so could be original to the car? Still curious if there were any others done. Jim says the blue car was a 389. That he also said so few knew of the 421 install in this car (three guys plus the two in engineering) - and the level of approval it took to make it happen - seems unlikely there are many, if any. | 
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|  Re: Tenney's 64 Wangers GTO... 
			
			Very cool story, and, a great car. I must have been misinformed a few years ago when it was for sale. I'm a big Royal fan, and, yours is one of the best. | 
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|  Re: Tenney's 64 Wangers GTO... 
			
			Thanks.  I'd thought same prior to speaking w/Jim about the "Memo 198 Tag Wangers" printed along the bottom of the build sheet.  Listening to him tell the stories of his time with the car - best retold by him, btw - couldn't have been cooler. | 
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