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[smooth]

Joel used alot of small block cars in the 70s. they were cheaper base cars. Motion 1 has severalmotion cars and all but one started as a small block. all after 1970. TIM

[Belair62]

more digging is in order if it was my car !

[Pantera]

The use of SB cars seems strange to me. His dealer cost on a BB car would not be that much more of a difference over a SB. The main reason is that he could sell the L-78 motor to the boat racers and then his cost of the CE L-88 motor would be very little difference in cost if any at all.

Now you say after '70 he used SB cars? Perhaps after Baldwin Chev. closed in '74 that advantage was lost? Perhaps those SB car's are just Motion conversions done for someone and not a car he bought from a dealer and modified for sale.

After 1974 he was more into the Maco conversions and didn't make any more Phase III GT's unless someone really wanted one.

We just don't have enough data on these cars from Joel. There are very few pic of the "Baldwin GT" cars. Until I showed up with my '70 BM documented car nobody even knew it existed. Joel himself had thought it was totaled shortly after it was built becase the owner had called him and told him he wrecked it.




I know the two cars that I have were both original BB cars?
We can only hope with time that we gain more knowledge about what he did.

[COPO]

In '67 the first BM Camaro was a small block SS 350 car, thereafter, they seemed to all start as BB L-78 cars until the 70's. The '71 BM Camaro I owned started as a Z-28. My '69 BM Camaro and '67 BM Chevelle both started as L-78's.

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

I agree with Belair, keep digging. Nobody knows if there was logic to what Motion started with, either a SB or a BB. Switching over to a BB is not that big of a deal if the buyer is getting a lot of speed parts installed anyway. The biggest issue is usually the cooling system, the rad is an easy change, and the heater hoses will still fit. Anything is possible, I've seen SB conversions in some old Chevy Action mag's.

[Yellow 69 z28]

Ditto for me also! My 69 Daytona Yellow B/M started as a Z/28.

[COPO]

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My 69 Daytona Yellow B/M started as a Z/28.

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I haven't heard about this car. Give us some details and let's see some pictures.