65 not 64 GTO convertible

[JoeG]

"Who was that Masked Man"-------------'65 GTO

[supergonzo]

I think your are right Mike. 65's are faster and very cool.
Although a 64 convertible, tripower can bring big dollars as well.

Back then the 66' was the most popular model ever made for GTO's and I think one of the best looking. Possibly only second to 69's.

I am not sure about 70's comment though. 69 GTO's and Judges bring much higher dollars then 70's. Most people consider 70's to look a little too much like Firebirds, at least thats the complaint I always hear. I personally like em' all
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As far as performance goes, every body who is NOT into Pontiacs...thinks that all the GTO's just came with 1 engine. They think its a 389. This is partially due to the HUGE success that Pontiac had branding the image of tripower and having a top 4 song that sold over 2 million copies,with the lines "3 deuces and a 4 speed" didn't hurt either.

These same people assume that the later years of muscle cars,1967+ could now defeat the GTO. And this would be true, except for 2 things. The GTO engines also evolved just like everybody elses and if you wanted to you could order a GTO that had all the best factory options and gear ratio's and you could be pretty competitive. BUT most people didn't. However most people didn't with the other brands either. Consider this:

Plymouth sold 1571 "street hemi's" in 1966. Dodge sold even less. Streetable...very loose usage of the term here, if Mopar didn't purposely name it the "street hemi" nobody would have assumed it was.
Meanwhile Pontiac SOLD 96,000 ++ GTO's ... 33,000 with tripower!!

[JoeG]

Your right the GTO was the car to beat in 64/65--after that the playing field started to even up,--but a friend of mine bought a '67 400 HO RAM AIR and this engine was really a nice option---his was the only 400 HO RAM AIR I had hear of around Mitchell's(local drive-in back then) and he surprised a lot of cars----

[StealthBird]

supergonzo, great post! However, I have to disagree on the worth of 69 Judges over 70 Judges. The 70 Judges always seem to pull more money than the 69's, espeically within the Pontiac collector world. Both years are expensive as hell, but Pontiac people have frequently voted the 1970 GTO as the second most attractive year, followed (usually) by the 66/67 models. Personally, I love both the 69 and 70 Judge models, but the 70 Judges seemed to peak in that over-the-top styling year for Musclecars. The flat rear wing, reflective side stripes, front spoiler, and some great looking exhaust tips.

On the front end styling of the 70 GTO, I've always heard the opposite! Most people do not care for the 69 GTO grille. The 68's were blacked out, the 69's were silver/gray (black on Judges) and used a horizontal bar. The 70's GTO's had the deep set, blacked out grilles and "frenched in" headlights. Many Pontiac people feel the 1970 GTO front end styling was the most beautiful of the bunch, and the Endura nose bumperless look was even more stunning when each headlight sat in their own "pocket", like a 70 Chevelle SS.

[Belair62]

70 Judge

[firstgenaddict]

Yes 70 Judge