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Old 12-18-2003, 03:40 AM
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What I posted was quoted word for word from the book I have. I am not familar with the Royal race history. I was just trying to supply what little info I had for someone that asked for Royal info. I will try to scan some pages from the book when I get a chance. All the pictures look like they pages from the brochures.
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Old 12-18-2003, 04:30 AM
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Sorry, I get a little carried away, too much information,LOL
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Old 12-19-2003, 04:21 AM
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I like reading it....how dod you gather this type of info hmmm ?
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Old 12-19-2003, 04:42 AM
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Belair62, TIme machine. Move to Detroit and relive my life. LOL
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Old 12-19-2003, 04:57 AM
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Hey, Belair62, I had a 61 Impala Convert Red white top 283 170hp Powerglide, in high school. It was orginally my mothers car. Just before I turned 16 they gave it to me. The rear end was starting to howl. Since we owned a scrap yard we had a '63 Biscayne 2 dr sedan with a 4:11 posi. Swapped the whole pig into the '61. The day I turn 16 I had the car parked in front of the house and some drunks in a pick up slamed into the frontend. My parents saw it, I slept through it. Woke up next day walked around the backend went to open the drivers door and it was stuck. I stepped back and saw my front end was now customized.
Well, at one of my uncles yards, down from ours, they had a '61 BelAir with a good front clip. You'll never guess. The front fenders where FIBERGLASS. By the time the car came back from the body shop we had a 1960 Impala come in with a 348. I couldn't pass it up. So now I had a 348, 4:11 Covertible that got it's rearend kicked everytime I went up against one of those new 1967 Camaro SS 350. Oh, well.life is good. LOL
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Old 12-19-2003, 02:11 PM
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Belair62, TIme machine. Move to Detroit and relive my life. LOL

[/ QUOTE ] Thanks but you sound older than Sixtiesmuscle !!!....Glass fenders on a 61 Belair? hmmmm
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Old 12-19-2003, 03:39 PM
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Yes, fiberglass. Back than we didn't have cheap Chinese produced sheet metal replacement panels. The new GM parts where very expensive compaired to the value of the car. It was comon to have aftermarket fiberglass replacement fenders becuse it was cheap.
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to everyone that tried to answer this question,user( bobcat ) came the closest to reality, and seems to have the history nailed except the porter story. the porters that washed and primped the cars in those events worked for the promoters just like the gate and litter crews. at any given time the bobcat and hot chiefs had a group with the cars but that would have been wangers the tech center guys and a few of the wrenches from the dealership, but never a porter. Ace sr. was more worried that ace jr. was going to kill himself with his fast toys, than about the race program. royal pontiac produced its last hot car in 1976 a black grand prix with jade green pinstripes. the dealership was sold to al shaffo the same year he defaulted after six months and the dealership was then sold to jim fresard.there are many firebirds,gto, lemans, and grand prix cars out there with some H.O. stuff and special paint that no one seems to remember but they were hard to miss in a crowd. royal raced in many events from the 50s to the 70s including pikes peak hill climbing... well that is enough for now... I would be interested in knowing how bobcat came to know so much about the royal team... but he is more accurate than all the books written.
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Old 11-12-2005, 07:39 AM
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Flash

Bobcat was and still is right there with all the people involved, he still races one of the original hot Bobcat cars. I have found him to be one of the best assets for the Royal history. I think the porter comment was a sarcastic joke, in my opinion.

If you know anything about the 350 HO Firebird and interested in sharing, I would like to hear.
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Old 11-12-2005, 05:22 PM
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This one should cast some light on those Royal days though.

Milt Schornack and the Royal Bobcat GTOs
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