2- 2002 camaro ss converts new on mso

[JoeC]

I don't think the new Thunderbird sales are doing very well either.

[JoeG]

JoeC,
The up-dated styling of the T-bird just catches my eye ,but never inquired, if there was a performance package, or was it just set up for leisurely touring for mid-life crissis guys like myself---maybe if Chevy presented performance options, to make it affordable at different performance levels,[ to the Masses-]---Really hate to see the camaro shelved First Oldsmobile, Camaro.next????-- [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]---JoeG -as someone mentioned earlier a 69 retro Z28 Road suspension/ performance package, might convert some new generation ricers to the original "Heartbeat of America"---Chevrolet---JoeG [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/flag.gif[/img]---- [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

Price of retro T-bird?-----Any performance or road handling packages?

[Belair62]

The new T-Birds are kind of weird.They took bits of styling from several different years and at first you couldn't get one.Now I see them on a lot of dealer lots.

[Chris396]

The new T-birds are too slow. I saw a new red Mach 1 today and I like it. The Mustang still looks Mustangish.

[82z96ss]

the camaro went a restyle every ten years, and added body pieces every five. GM needs to do what the imports do, have a design for 5 to 6 years then redo it. It keeps the attraction and value up.

My two cents anyway.

[JoeG]

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The Mustang still looks Mustangish.

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Chris396,
I personally think you are looking thru the eyes of the car enthusiast on the street, which I think is correct.----MUSTANG stood the automotive world on it's ear with it's fresh styling----the intial stlying kind of lost it's way in the 80'IMO ,but Ford has slowly gotten back to the "C" frame shape of the 60's-----IDENTITY---if you took all the emblems off the new mustang and new camaro and then compared them to old 60's photo's ,you wouldn't need emblems for the MUSTANG to recognize it---just like the Corvette---no matter how they modernized styling the Corvette and Mustang kept their identity in-tact------IMO I always thought the Camaro tried to be a new Mustang with their new design and just kind of pushed the styling that got them there, completely away--I know a lot of you fellas are saying I'm full of crap, but that's OK because we're just kicking some ideas around---when you get a chance look thru some old photos of Mustangs--Camaros--Corvettes and it makes you think Maybe Ford does have it's finger on the pulse of the car enthusiast---- especially with their new performance[Total Package handling/styling/performance--You Gets Your Moneys Worth].--Yes I am a CHEVY-MAN. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]--JoeG [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

[Chevy454]

JoeG:

I don't think you're full of crap (not int his instance anyway[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img]) as I personally feel the latest Mustangs flat out have it in the looks department. The small scoop (even a shaker option!), the revised front/rear...and going back to their roots with the Bullet, the Mach 1, etc. Being a die-hard bowtie guy I don't know if I could bring myself to park a GT in my garage, because I'd be going backwards performance-wise, but I could be swayed for an '03+ Cobra! Those things are bad@ss, and MEGA-HP is a simple pulley change away.

Interesting theory, Charley, that unfortunately in our day/time makes sense.

I just hope that GM doesn't "Impala-ize" the Camaro and go V6/FWD...[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsdown.gif[/img]

[JoeG]

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JoeG:

I don't think you're full of crap (not int his instance anyway[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/naughty.gif[/img])

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[Jeff H]

I gotta disagree with the looks of the current Mustang. It looks like some off-road 4x4 vehicle with those big plastic fender flares. And they're too squared off. I pass 5-10 of these Mustangs every day and they get uglier each time I pass one. The Cobra definitely has some awesome performance, but the cars are dog ugly. People will buy anything with a little horsey emblem on it. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif[/img]

[MosportGreen66]

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JoeC,
if there was a performance package

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JoeC,

I am almost positive that the Saleen company was toying with the idea of a hotrod(ed) thunderbird. I will try to find the article.

-Dan