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#1
11-03-2017, 05:01 PM
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396/375 Timing Chain Set
I am rebuilding a 69 Camaro L78 (396/375) engine. I need some help on a replacement timing chain set. The engine will have stock cam and solid lifters. I do not want to grind on the block, etc. and want the chain to fit under the stock timing chain cover. I do not want to change the pulley alignment. The engine is not a race engine and 6000 rpm is the maximum.
I'm looking at Cloyes roller sets (street or street billet) or the Rollmaster set. I would like to use the bronze thrust plate to eliminate wear on the block. Why make things more complex by using the needle bearing thrust plates? Any advice? Thanks 
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11-03-2017, 05:45 PM
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Just my opinion -- but if you are pretty much stock (no roller lifter cam) the Cloyes work very well -- no thrust plate needed. But I would recommend using oil plugs with small holes in the front of the cam galley. These two plugs will ensure oil to the cam gear. Pioneer # PP454-25 is what you need -- got mine at O'Reilly's. TAZ
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11-03-2017, 06:05 PM
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and a stock type set with a steel top gear is perfectly adequate for a stock build
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#4
11-03-2017, 08:04 PM
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Keep the high volume, high pressure oil pumps out and you wont have to worry about thrust face wear.
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"Knowledge is good" Emil Fabor 67 L/78 Camaro SS/RS H-H,1W,2LGSR,3SL,4K,5BY. (Sold) 70 L/78 Nova M-21,Black Cherry,Sandalwood Int. 09 Pontiac G8 GT Premium,Sport,Roof. Liquid Red.
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#5
11-04-2017, 01:28 AM
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11-06-2017, 02:26 AM
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#7
11-07-2017, 01:59 PM
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Adjustable sets like Cloyes Hex-a-just are a real time saver in getting the cam in right. You are rolling the dice if you just install it dot-to-dot. I wouldn't put any engine together without degreeing the cam.
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#8
11-07-2017, 03:12 PM
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And check every lobe.
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"Knowledge is good" Emil Fabor 67 L/78 Camaro SS/RS H-H,1W,2LGSR,3SL,4K,5BY. (Sold) 70 L/78 Nova M-21,Black Cherry,Sandalwood Int. 09 Pontiac G8 GT Premium,Sport,Roof. Liquid Red.
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#9
11-08-2017, 02:17 AM
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I used a Cloyes Hex Adjust in my L78 motor back in 1998 and its still together, never had an issue...
Rich
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#10
11-08-2017, 08:32 PM
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Thanks for the replies. Since this is a stock 69 396/375 rebuild with no racing in the future (no alignment problems or grinding of the block). Engine will have a stock oil pump. I'll verify oil holes in gallery plugs. From comments, I think a good choice would be Cloyes 9-1110 (does not contain the thrust wear plate, iron crank gear) or a Cloyes 9-3510WX9 (bronze wear plate and billet cam gear). Either are upgrades from Cloyes c-3024X that I also considered. Before I order does anyone have any other suggestions?
Thanks
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