Tires and wheels...2004 Suburban

[Mr70]

Just bought a set of P245/65R17 H/T-S Yokohama Geolanders last year and can't stop praising them.My Ford is a much better vehicle with them,and I am seeking another set for a second truck.

[tom406]

Cooper Zeon LTZ is the best tire I've had on my 4x4 Ford F-150. Aggressive tread but quiet, nice performance on the road. Tread wear is very even and seem to be lasting. Not sure about load ratings for you but they've taken everything I've thrown at them with no scars.

[WILMASBOYL78]

I went online to look at the Geolander tire...looks like a pretty good product.

So, I decided to call Yokohama to get a little more first hand information...very disappointing phone call

The customer service person knew nothing about their products...he could only tell me they were a top seller and basically read me back what is on their website. I had to tell him the name of the tire 3 times and then he asked me for a part number

In the end there was no additional info beyond the website presentation...I realize you guys have first hand experience which is probably the best to consider...it was just disappointing that the manufacturer wasn't more engaged.

I also spoke with the service manager at the local Midas store...he helps with a lot of our odds and ends. He said they were a good tire, but frequent rotations were needed to prevent a choppy wear issue.

The research will continue for a little longer...thanks for all the help.

-wilma

[HawkX66]

Originally Posted by WILMASBOYL78

I went online to look at the Geolander tire...looks like a pretty good product.

So, I decided to call Yokohama to get a little more first hand information...very disappointing phone call

The customer service person knew nothing about their products...he could only tell me they were a top seller and basically read me back what is on their website. I had to tell him the name of the tire 3 times and then he asked me for a part number

In the end there was no additional info beyond the website presentation...I realize you guys have first hand experience which is probably the best to consider...it was just disappointing that the manufacturer wasn't more engaged.

I also spoke with the service manager at the local Midas store...he helps with a lot of our odds and ends. He said they were a good tire, but frequent rotations were needed to prevent a choppy wear issue.

The research will continue for a little longer...thanks for all the help.

-wilma

I'm not sure if they're heavy enough for what you're doing, but I put Cooper Discover AT3s on my truck and my Expedition. I tow a 24' car trailer with the Ex and they do excellent. They wear great and are quiet on the highway.

[WILMASBOYL78]

I spoke with Cooper...and they made the same suggestion. The customer service person felt their ST Maxx tire [w/3 ply side-wall] would be too much tire for the lighter 1/2 ton suspension of our Suburban.

-wilma

[earntaz]

I have a set of Cooper DISCOVERER HT PLUS Tire (265/60R18XL) on my 07 Ford FX2 Sport -- good ride, quiet, excellent in the rain ... great tire! TAZ

[njsteve]

I always rotate my Geolanders at every oil change (5000 miles) and get excellent wear across the tread. No cupping whatsoever.

You want load capacity if you are pulling a trailer. You can't have too much sidewall strength. I remember back when my truck was new and the local tire store recommended and installed a set of Michellins that were load range C instead of E on my Suburban. He said they would be fine and give a better ride too.

Yeah... a much better ride because they turned to mush in under 10,000 miles. When I dismounted them to replace them with a load range E tire, I stood the dismounted tire up vertically and it flattened completely to the ground like it was a deflated inner tube. There was no sidewall strength whatsoever remaining.

Here's the ply/load rating chart:

Plies#
4 "B" 35 psi
6 "C" 50 psi
8 "D" 65 psi
10 "E" 80 psi
12 "F" 95 psi

[WILMASBOYL78]

I don't don't pull any heavy trailers...just a snowmobile or atv rig...occasional small fishing boat...no big rigs. The idea of the better side wall strength with the 'E' rating makes sense...my major concern is the off-road time going into camp...rough trip.

-wilma

[njsteve]

Actually, I would rather have a heavy sidewall for offroad use. Think of what happens when you hit a curb and what that does to your sidewall on a passenger rated tire. You get much more protection from sidewall impact damage (like rocks) with a higher load range tire. You can always lower the air pressure. I use 75 to 80 psi when towing and around 55 when empty.

[Mr70]

Or you could ask Charley to lease this to you Tom.
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