Top Day 2 Musclecars? - Page 6

old5.0 · #51 09-08-2016, 05:40 PM

I'll see your 454 Vega and raise you a 494 Can Am Boss Pinto. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

Heads up gets out of control quick.

**bulletpruf** · #52 09-08-2016, 05:44 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PLATINUM6BBL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">'64 A864 street Hemi aluminum nose sedan from either Plymouth or Dodge if you're talking strictly Day 2 mods of shifter / shift kit and the 3 T's - tach / tires / tune. They already had 4.56 gears. Take off 4-bolts to uncap the factory "manifold's" and in the right hands would be a hard to beat car. </div></div>

Were these production cars that came off the assembly line or were they farmed out? Curious to hear if they are legal in Pure Stock, too. Did a quick Google search and didn't get a definitive answer.

Thanks

**bulletpruf** · #53 09-08-2016, 05:46 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: EZ Nova</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Like I said earlier, BB Vega with "period" parts will be the car to beat! Motion had a 454 Vega "offered" in 1970/1971 before "the man" stopped them.

So you start with what could be an 800+Hp BBc into a Vega? Then there are so many other factors that 99% of the people never think of? But guys like myself and my friend, when it comes to heads up racing, go that extra to get ever .001" of a second? So what happens when you got a guy that has THE WILL, THE DOLLARS AND THE SMARTS to do whatever it takes to be the top dog. My friend, Butch Kemp is a perfect example. NA10.5 or Ultra Street SB ON MOTOR that can run 4.72 LAST YEAR. He does whatever it takes to make sure that he has done his homework and prepared to the best of his ability once that car come to the line.

We also had another guy. His DAD wanted to run 8.90 INDEX in the local series. He went out and bought him a CURRENT NHRA Pro Stock roller from Kenny Kuretsky and a new 572 GM crate motor. $75,000.00 ROLLER to run 8.90 and win $1,000.00??? 2 weeks before he got the roller, Kenny was running it in Pro Stock.

Heads up will also be a very tough and therefore expensive class, not matter what people say. And the more rules, the more the cost goes up. </div></div>

The good thing about it is that anyone who can afford a Pure Stock Drags car should be able to race in Day 2 and Day 3 with a modest outlay of cash. Being competitive in Day 4 could be expensive, but it sure would be fun to watch!

**bulletpruf** · #54 09-08-2016, 05:49 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: old5.0</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'll see your 454 Vega and raise you a 494 Can Am Boss Pinto. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

Heads up gets out of control quick. </div></div>

900 hp and a 94" wheelbase? Yep, that can get "out of control quick."

PLATINUM6BBL · #55 09-08-2016, 09:38 PM

Was a line built car and not farmed out. If you were well read in the magazines back in the day you could go to your local Mopar dealer and order one w/o having to be a "factory" driver. The issue on these cars is the term "header" instead of manifold. "Headers" are not allowed in Pure Stock or FAST. The first 3" of these manifolds are cast iron with tubular pipes put into them. Since the factory called them "headers" in the literature they have not been allowed to race. Here's what they look like - http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/2918271...amp;rmvSB=true
Moparts post on them - http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...-hardtops.html
Texas teen 64 Hemi - http://akudanquran.com/news/The-Texas-Te...Racing-History/
Thing of beauty or nightmares? - https://www.google.com/search?q=a864...ZnvUZqygsHM%3A

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bulletpruf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PLATINUM6BBL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">'64 A864 street Hemi aluminum nose sedan from either Plymouth or Dodge if you're talking strictly Day 2 mods of shifter / shift kit and the 3 T's - tach / tires / tune. They already had 4.56 gears. Take off 4-bolts to uncap the factory "manifold's" and in the right hands would be a hard to beat car. </div></div>

Were these production cars that came off the assembly line or were they farmed out? Curious to hear if they are legal in Pure Stock, too. Did a quick Google search and didn't get a definitive answer.

Thanks </div></div>

PLATINUM6BBL · #56 09-08-2016, 09:45 PM

Marvin Hughes 64 Hemi Dodge video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ts6-qOglPg - this thing is a beast!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bulletpruf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PLATINUM6BBL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">'64 A864 street Hemi aluminum nose sedan from either Plymouth or Dodge if you're talking strictly Day 2 mods of shifter / shift kit and the 3 T's - tach / tires / tune. They already had 4.56 gears. Take off 4-bolts to uncap the factory "manifold's" and in the right hands would be a hard to beat car. </div></div>

Were these production cars that came off the assembly line or were they farmed out? Curious to hear if they are legal in Pure Stock, too. Did a quick Google search and didn't get a definitive answer.

Thanks </div></div>

**bulletpruf** · #57 09-09-2016, 04:56 AM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PLATINUM6BBL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Was a line built car and not farmed out. If you were well read in the magazines back in the day you could go to your local Mopar dealer and order one w/o having to be a "factory" driver. The issue on these cars is the term "header" instead of manifold. "Headers" are not allowed in Pure Stock or FAST. The first 3" of these manifolds are cast iron with tubular pipes put into them. Since the factory called them "headers" in the literature they have not been allowed to race. Here's what they look like - http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/2918271...amp;rmvSB=true
Moparts post on them - http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...-hardtops.html
Texas teen 64 Hemi - http://akudanquran.com/news/The-Texas-Te...Racing-History/
Thing of beauty or nightmares? - https://www.google.com/search?q=a864...ZnvUZqygsHM%3A

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bulletpruf</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PLATINUM6BBL</div><div class="ubbcode-body">'64 A864 street Hemi aluminum nose sedan from either Plymouth or Dodge if you're talking strictly Day 2 mods of shifter / shift kit and the 3 T's - tach / tires / tune. They already had 4.56 gears. Take off 4-bolts to uncap the factory "manifold's" and in the right hands would be a hard to beat car. </div></div>

Were these production cars that came off the assembly line or were they farmed out? Curious to hear if they are legal in Pure Stock, too. Did a quick Google search and didn't get a definitive answer.

Thanks </div></div> </div></div>

Thanks for posting the details. Very interesting on the headers; have never seen anything like those.

Scott

EZ Nova · #58 09-09-2016, 01:37 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: old5.0</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'll see your 454 Vega and raise you a 494 Can Am Boss Pinto. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]

Heads up gets out of control quick. </div></div>

And raise you with a Can Am version 480+CI of BBC ZL-! in that same little Vega. Now with only what was available say upto 1971, the BBc would win simply because there wasn't much aftermarket for the big old BOSS!

EZ Nova · #59 09-09-2016, 01:40 PM

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bulletpruf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The good thing about it is that anyone who can afford a Pure Stock Drags car should be able to race in Day 2 and Day 3 with a modest outlay of cash. Being competitive in Day 4 could be expensive, but it sure would be fun to watch!
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The Day 2/3 stuff can get pricey too! IE F.A.S.T. style of cars are FAR from "inexpensive"!

Would be fun to try something though!!!!

**ANDY M** · #60 09-10-2016, 09:07 PM

OK Since I'm an old geezer who grew up in the Detroit area and actually wasted some of my youth on Woodward Ave. I will toss in my 2 cents.
JMHO but the origin of "Day 2" is some 16 year old kid buying his first used car and then trying to make it go faster with as little cash as possible.
These cars were called "HOT RODS". The concept of buying an old beater and then adding your own mods, thus causing your old beater to lose its status as a stock car goes back to the late 1940's, and goes on to today.
Day 2 could be any car with parts from Jegs or Summit bolted on.
Guys with cash have been building sleepers for generations. Just look at what kids are doing to Honda Civics or any other cheep car that can be modified with aftermarket parts.
When the gas crisis hit in 1974, big block cars were getting crushed like the Lions with less than two minutes to play. There are so many ways to modify a car that the "bracket racer" is the only fair way to race. Run what you brung, give yourself a tenth, and don't be a sandbagger.
Also, in my wasted youth street racing was done from a roll, not from a dig. Hard to do at a track. (Just saying) [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/rolleyes.gif[/img]
OK, please return to the regularly scheduled rants.
Andy [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/beers.gif[/img]