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Old 06-18-2016, 02:13 AM
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So why are the Ford and Mopar Carlisle events packed and the GM (essentially a Chevy) show is drying up? I'd like to hear a good explanation, because I can't think of one.

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Old 06-18-2016, 02:32 AM
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In my opinion, for what that's worth Verne, Ford and Mopar are brands that have an easier time coralling allegiance around their brands. In the muscle years, both had basically two brands within &quot;Mopar&quot; and &quot;Ford&quot; - Mercury being a &quot;little brother&quot; ,if you will, with only few offerings of a muscular nature.

The divisions within General Motors have super strong followings - Pontiac people are as passionate and, at times, anti-Chevy, as any Mopar nut. They've had years of great, organized shows under POCI, GTOAA, Trans-Am etc. to enjoy their brand. They don't need a GM show. Ditto Chevy, Buick and Olds people.

Hell, the Carlisle show used to host the Camaro Nationals - that was great! Think about that: one model, sold by one division of GM. (But they left Carlisle). Ever hear of a 'Cuda Nationals? Nope. It's the Mopar Nationals. So when one model of GM has a show with as many devotees as an entire Mopar show, well, you get the picture - there isn't any need for a &quot;GM Show&quot;. So nobody goes. 2 cents.
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Old 06-18-2016, 11:37 PM
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tracker1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In my opinion, for what that's worth Verne, Ford and Mopar are brands that have an easier time coralling allegiance around their brands. In the muscle years, both had basically two brands within &quot;Mopar&quot; and &quot;Ford&quot; - Mercury being a &quot;little brother&quot; ,if you will, with only few offerings of a muscular nature.

The divisions within General Motors have super strong followings - Pontiac people are as passionate and, at times, anti-Chevy, as any Mopar nut. They've had years of great, organized shows under POCI, GTOAA, Trans-Am etc. to enjoy their brand. They don't need a GM show. Ditto Chevy, Buick and Olds people.

Hell, the Carlisle show used to host the Camaro Nationals - that was great! Think about that: one model, sold by one division of GM. (But they left Carlisle). Ever hear of a 'Cuda Nationals? Nope. It's the Mopar Nationals. So when one model of GM has a show with as many devotees as an entire Mopar show, well, you get the picture - there isn't any need for a &quot;GM Show&quot;. So nobody goes. 2 cents. </div></div>

I understand what you're saying and I get the logic but I still feel that GM people who want to attend a swap and look for parts might have an easier time finding them at a GM show rather than having to cover 8000 spaces at a Spring or Fall show. When I have vended there I have always done very well, even though the number of vendors keeps shrinking. I've found good crowds in the aisles at each show, even today when I was there a short time. The ebay reasoning does not apply if you look at the Ford and Mopar shows with substantial vendor turnout. The buyers ARE there in the aisles; it's the continuing loss of vendors that perplexes me.

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