Car for Sale Misrepresentation

[Charley Lillard]

I have changed the settings in the for sale section so now after 24 hours the post can't be edited. It would have been nice to see what the ad had said.

[Don_Lightfoot]

It is unfortunate to read these circumstances regarding Danny. He and I have communicated over the years on the odd matter. I certainly cannot comment on the car since I don't recall seeing the "for sale" ad.

When I got back into the hobby in 1991 I bought a 64 GTO based on pictures only. It was a long way away in Alberta so travelling to inspect it was tough. I knew it needed a full restoration so some of the misrepresented items in the ad did not upset me too much. Also, values back then were nowhere near what they are today. I never did get back to him once I received and inspected the car. Deal was done and so be it. I restored the car and enjoyed it for a few years.

Since that time I have purchased four other Musclecars. I did personal inspections on all of them. Two of them were in Florida which was a major expense to go and see them. Each one had some issues which I learned in the inspections and others after I got them home. For me there was always things I wanted to do to the cars anyway to improve them, etc., so I didn't lose any sleep over the issues. For each of them I was happy with what I got, where I improved it and enjoyed them as well. Since I am not an investor, I was not overly worried about the money spent to improve and/or correct things as it was all about the enjoyment. At least that was my philosophy which can obviously be different than other people.

As mentioned earlier, I cannot comment on the correctness of the ad. What bothers me in today's world is a lot of manipulation in "wording" for a bunch of sale ads (not saying it was done in this circumstance). I can only imagine that every car that is sold needs something, some more than others. Hard to itemize all items in an ad. More times than not I would say these items would be disclosed and/or discussed in telephone conversations before the sale. From your standpoint it appears not all of this was done in this case.

From what you say Craig all the items can be addressed. If this is indeed the car you want then go ahead and fix them I guess (as was mentioned by another member previously). Once it's done then you will be happy and be able to enjoy it rather than dwell on the sale process itself. You are certainly frustrated at this time which I know will be hard to put behind you. I wish you luck and hopefully the car will turn out to be everything you wanted.

[caj]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Don_Lightfoot</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is unfortunate to read these circumstances regarding Danny. He and I have communicated over the years on the odd matter. I certainly cannot comment on the car since I don't recall seeing the &quot;for sale&quot; ad.

When I got back into the hobby in 1991 I bought a 64 GTO based on pictures only. It was a long way away in Alberta so travelling to inspect it was tough. I knew it needed a full restoration so some of the misrepresented items in the ad did not upset me too much. Also, values back then were nowhere near what they are today. I never did get back to him once I received and inspected the car. Deal was done and so be it. I restored the car and enjoyed it for a few years.

Since that time I have purchased four other Musclecars. I did personal inspections on all of them. Two of them were in Florida which was a major expense to go and see them. Each one had some issues which I learned in the inspections and others after I got them home. For me there was always things I wanted to do to the cars anyway to improve them, etc., so I didn't lose any sleep over the issues. For each of them I was happy with what I got, where I improved it and enjoyed them as well. Since I am not an investor, I was not overly worried about the money spent to improve and/or correct things as it was all about the enjoyment. At least that was my philosophy which can obviously be different than other people.

As mentioned earlier, I cannot comment on the correctness of the ad. What bothers me in today's world is a lot of manipulation in &quot;wording&quot; for a bunch of sale ads (not saying it was done in this circumstance). I can only imagine that every car that is sold needs something, some more than others. Hard to itemize all items in an ad. More times than not I would say these items would be disclosed and/or discussed in telephone conversations before the sale. From your standpoint it appears not all of this was done in this case.

From what you say Craig all the items can be addressed. If this is indeed the car you want then go ahead and fix them I guess (as was mentioned by another member previously). Once it's done then you will be happy and be able to enjoy it rather than dwell on the sale process itself. You are certainly frustrated at this time which I know will be hard to put behind you. I wish you luck and hopefully the car will turn out to be everything you wanted. </div></div>

Hi Don and thanks for your reply to this matter. I have a question for you. You mentioned that you and Danny have communicated over the years on the odd matter. Was the odd matter that you communicated with Danny the clutch problem that he was experiencing with the Challenger by any chance? If so, did he try any remedies besides just trying to adjust the clutch? Thanks, Craig

[Xplantdad]

I don't know either of these folks but I do want to remind everyone of the &quot;rule&quot; stated at the top of the For Sale section. Seems like a simple enough thing to do...&quot;to make it right-or not be able to post here any more&quot;.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> We still have the satisfaction guarantee rule. If it is yours you need to stand behind what you are selling or risk being able to post here.</div></div>

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[70 Forest Green Zee]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Xplantdad</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't know either of these folks but I do want to remind everyone of the &quot;rule&quot; stated at the top of the For Sale section. Seems like a simple enough thing to do...&quot;to make it right-or not be able to post here any more&quot;.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> We still have the satisfaction guarantee rule. If it is yours you need to stand behind what you are selling or risk being able to post here.</div></div>

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As usual, Bruce has hit the nail right on the head..... XXXBlackLS6M22 needs to make this right to CAJ's satisfaction or be banned from using this sight. Blatantly misrepresenting a car for sale here should just not be tolerated and Mr. Pascoe I also agree with you that a few bad apples are going to ruin it for everyone. I truly hope that Danny makes this right for everyone's sake!

[Don_Lightfoot]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: caj</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Hi Don and thanks for your reply to this matter. I have a question for you. You mentioned that you and Danny have communicated over the years on the odd matter. Was the odd matter that you communicated with Danny the clutch problem that he was experiencing with the Challenger by any chance? If so, did he try any remedies besides just trying to adjust the clutch? Thanks, Craig </div></div>

It wasn't about your car Craig. Danny is a fellow Chevelle enthusiast and our communications were related to that species.

[Fast67VelleN2O]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have changed the settings in the for sale section so now after 24 hours the post can't be edited. It would have been nice to see what the ad had said. </div></div>

Charley, that's unfortunate since I won't be able to mark an actual ad as &quot;sold&quot;. I will have to put it in the comments and rarely does anyone read that. That and the fact that if I have to mark an old ad as &quot;sold&quot;, it will bring it back to the top knocking off newer ads on the top page to do so.

[njsteve]

On the clutch issue I was going to mention the same over-center spring located under the dash. It is a heavy gauge coiled spring that returns the pedal to the up position. It takes the place of the return spring attached to the fork like on GM cars. It does &quot;pop&quot; the pedal up. It can be extremely disconcerting if you are not used to Mopar clutch pedals, especially when you have the transmission out and go to pull the clutch pedal up while working under the dash and the spring suddenly yanks the pedal back up, and you get a face full of clutch pedal. OUCH!