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Old 12-25-2010, 08:50 PM
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In todays AZ Republic:

RS vs BJ


Scottsdale's three collector-car auctions are a month away, but a long-simmering dispute between Barrett-Jackson and Russo and Steele boiled over like an overheated radiator last week.

The latest skirmish involves empty real estate at Hayden Road and Loop 101 that Russo co-owner Drew Alcazar wanted to use for his 11th annual auction, moving the event a mile east from Scottsdale Road and Loop 101.

Craig Jackson, Barrett-Jackson Auction Co. chairman, objected to Russo moving to the state land at Hayden and 101, saying he needs the site for overflow parking during his 40th annual auction at WestWorld.

"We can't co-exist using the same piece of property," Jackson said, later suggesting that Alcazar move his event a week later to "see if he can survive on his own."

Alcazar, who worked for Jackson before starting his own event, accused Jackson of being anti-competitive and using his lobbying muscle to block his move to the Hayden site.

"Barrett-Jackson succeeded in delaying (the move), derailing it and putting us under duress," Alcazar said. "They sort of won."

Russo and Steele will return to its Scottsdale Road site for its auction Jan. 19-23. It is trying to recover from a calamitous storm that blew down its tents last year and did millions of dollars in damages to classic cars.

The much-larger Barrett-Jackson auction is Jan. 17-23 in the massive tent at WestWorld.

Gooding and Co., in its fourth year in Scottsdale, will hold its auction Jan. 21-22 at Scottsdale Fashion Square. RM Auctions is Jan. 20-21 at the Arizona Biltmore in Phoenix.

Russo sought city deal
Scottsdale had been working on an agreement that would have allowed Russo to move to a 25-acre site southwest of Hayden and 101 and put down an asphalt pad for one year, with a possibility of extending the deal for five more years.

The city manages 380 acres of state land at Hayden and 101 under a special land-use permit with the Arizona State Land Department that is up for renewal in June. Alcazar said he could not risk investing close to $200,000 to grade and pave a 45,000-square-foot area without having a long-term deal in place, especially with Barrett-Jackson objecting to the move.

"I'm not asking for a sweetheart contract like Craig gets at Scottsdale," Alcazar said.

"We do our own little thing, we contribute to the tax base of the city of Scottsdale," he added.

Scottsdale nixes relocation
Jackson accused Alcazar of trying "to pull a fast one" in announcing a move to the Hayden site before he had a deal.

"He's trying to play me like I'm a bully," Jackson said. "But he had no such agreement."

Barrett-Jackson relies on the Hayden site for overflow parking that becomes vital if wet weather washes out some of its parking at WestWorld and on the soccer fields near the TPC Scottsdale.

Scottsdale initially indicated it would allow Russo to move to the Hayden site but later decided against the relocation.

Brian Dygert, WestWorld general manager, sent an e-mail to Alcazar on Nov. 19 indicating the Hayden site was an option for Russo's 2011 auction.

Four days later, Dygert informed Alcazar that the city "is unable to fulfill your requests for the 2011 event."

Scottsdale tried to figure out a way to accommodate both events, but that turned out to be too complex.

Barrett-Jackson, which conducted its first auction at the former Safari Resort downtown in 1971, has been operating at WestWorld since 1989.

Dygart declined to comment on whether Alcazar is correct in claiming that Barrett-Jackson gets favorable treatment from the city.

"I can't speak on that one," Dygert said. "I'm kind of a middle guy. . . . I take direction like everybody else."



Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic...l#ixzz199epISN9
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Barrett's response;

http://news.barrett-jackson.com/barrett-...le-controversy/
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Old 01-05-2011, 03:57 PM
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----I love the statement about ethics by B/J. I wonder if ethics were involved when my primetime spot (that I paid extra for) at 6:30 on Friday somehow morphed into 10:30 at night. The only people left were me, the auctioneer, a smart bidder, and other passed out bidders (3). I also wonder if ethics were involved when B/J would do nothing to compensate me or any of the other car owners with numbers around me. They wouldnt even give me back the extra money I paid to run across the block at 6:30.
----In the interest of fairness I didnt expect to go off at 6:30. Im not that nieve, but by 7:30 would have been an understandable delay.......Bill S
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Old 01-05-2011, 04:55 PM
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The B-J Circus has become one of the most irritating comedies on TV.

Just <span style="font-style: italic">my</span> opinion, of course.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: olredalert</div><div class="ubbcode-body">----I love the statement about ethics by B/J. I wonder if ethics were involved when my primetime spot (that I paid extra for) at 6:30 on Friday somehow morphed into 10:30 at night. The only people left were me, the auctioneer, a smart bidder, and other passed out bidders (3). I also wonder if ethics were involved when B/J would do nothing to compensate me or any of the other car owners with numbers around me. They wouldnt even give me back the extra money I paid to run across the block at 6:30.
----In the interest of fairness I didnt expect to go off at 6:30. Im not that nieve, but by 7:30 would have been an understandable delay.......Bill S </div></div>

Ouch, that does stink.

What auction did this happen at? What car? What caused the timing to be that far off?
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Old 01-05-2011, 05:31 PM
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It's pretty obvious that all auctions are crooked to varying degrees. Mecum may be the exception, heard good things and haven't dealt with them. RS and BJ owners and employees always make my skin crawl when I am in their immediate vicinity. I get the same sensation around politicians. Craig Jackson spouting off about ethics is priceless.
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Old 01-05-2011, 05:47 PM
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When they started the no reserve only format, they traded the best consigned cars ever for american greed.
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Old 01-05-2011, 06:06 PM
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I have a suggestion for B-J that would increase the money bid for any stalled cars. We've all seen times when Craig or other special speakers offer incentives to the car. I think a very popular incentive would be to allow the winning bidder to smack those silly dark glasses off of Steve's smug face.
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Old 01-05-2011, 06:11 PM
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Take a look at BJ's Auction List. It's laughable and greed (100% Sell-through with No Reserve) has gotten them to this point. The best part though is when they lead people to believe that they have &quot;hand-selected&quot; the various consignments. They sell what shows up. And with some exceptions, it's starting to look like a Kruse Auction.

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----Happened about 6 or 7 years ago. Some of the members here will remember the Autumn Gold 70 LS6 Chevelle I had there. Ill let others who saw the car that weekend comment on its quality.
----Several of us later found out that owners of cars long before ours on Friday had piggy-backed more cars onto ones they already had consigned. In other words, a consigner might have had Friday # 75. He then at a later date closer to the auction would call B/J and somehow squeeze three or more cars onto that same auction #, I.E. 75A, 75B, 75C, etc, etc. There were several of these &quot;additions&quot; that day. All the cars after these &quot;extra&quot; cars were therefore delayed by the amount of time taken to sell them. I just didnt know at the time what the letters meant!
----None of us harmed individuals were aware of this &quot;ethical&quot; practice that Im sure probably still goes on today. I figured at the time that I probably lost somewhere between 10 and twenty thousand due to this &quot;ethical&quot; practice!......Bill S
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