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Old 07-08-2010, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: 1970 Olds 442 Pace Car - COPO?

It's not a "Regular" Cutlass - it's a high-zoot Cutlass Supreme.
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Old 07-08-2010, 08:52 PM
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Old 07-08-2010, 10:41 PM
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Default Re: 1970 Olds 442 Pace Car - COPO?

I never understood the 1970 Cutlass Pace Car either. Could be a budget way to get a Pace Car looking Cutlass. I always loved the 1970 Pace Car, certainly one of my favorites.
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Old 07-09-2010, 04:20 AM
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Default Re: 1970 Olds 442 Pace Car - COPO?

I don't really see the confusion?

The '69 Camaro's base engine was a 350, just like the Cutlass Supreme's.

The '68's Torino GT's base engine was a 302.

The '67 Camaro's was like the '69's.

The '66 Cyclone was 390-only.

The '65 Sport Fury probably was a 383 for most of the versions sold by dealers, although information on the replicas is somewhat murky.

I think the Cutlass Supreme is just par for the course.
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Old 07-09-2010, 03:05 PM
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Any '70 SX Pace Cars built?.

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Default Re: 1970 Olds 442 Pace Car - COPO?

I think the &quot;confusion&quot; is that the other Pace Cars you listed were built on performance models. The Cutlass was not a performance model.

The 1967 and 1969 Camaro Pace Cars were all RS/SS. They were performance cars.

The 1968 Pace Cars were all Torino GT's, the performance option.

The 1966 Pace Cars were all Cyclone GT's, the performance option.

The 1971 Pace Cars were all Challenger 383's, no 318's built.

Pace Car replicas were typically offered to the public using the performance package. There were of course Pace cars that were not performance cars at all (1973 Eldorado), so there's nothing wrong with that.

But seriously, in 1970, you had the &quot;wicked&quot; W-30, the Rallye 350, the W-31, and the whole Dr. Olds campaign in full swing, they were chosen as the Indy Pace Car, and they make a Pace Car in both 442 <span style="font-style: italic">and</span> Cutlass forms? [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/hmmm.gif[/img]
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&quot;The 1971 Pace Cars were all Challenger 383's, no 318's built.&quot;

Some were in fact 318 and some had 340's. The 1971 Pace car was provided through the Indianappolis Area Dodge Dealers and they ordered their own cars, They all had to be orange.

http://www.indypacecars.com/1971vins.html

You will see from the list, engines used were the G (318) H (340

l and N were 383's

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Default Re: 1970 Olds 442 Pace Car - COPO?

Mike, Paul answered what I couldn't (I'm at Carlisle), but the Sport Fury was not a performance model. Neither was the Torino GT.
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