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Did you verify that the body number on your cowl tag matches the one on the seat tag? Steve [/ QUOTE ] Yes, it does match the cowl tag.
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Darcy 2019 ZL1 A10 Camaro Convertible Davenport Stage 2 tuned. |
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That looks like a body broadcast sheet, not a chassis sheet. If so it relates to the work on the body needed to be done by Fisher. Fishers only concern would have been to cut the hole in the floor, and M20 is GMs generic code for a 4 speed manual transmission, it does not actually mean its a Muncie transmission. [/ QUOTE ] Where would I find a chassis sheet in this car ?? Or did it hit the garbage can after it was built at the factory ?? Thanks for the input.
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Where would I find a chassis sheet in this car ?? Or did it hit the garbage can after it was built at the factory ?? Thanks for the input. [/ QUOTE ] That's a Fisher Body UOIT sheet (Uniform Option Identification Tag), not a Chevrolet Broadcast Copy; Fisher didn't care about M20 vs. M21 - all it meant to them was to cut a hole in the floor. There were multiple Body and Chassis Broadcast Copies printed in the system on the Chevrolet side of the plant for every car, and they were trashed as they were no longer needed. If any remained in/on/under the car, they were removed during the "de-papering" process on the Shipping Line, as they were strictly internal process documents and had no use outside the plant. ![]()
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2nd line block 4 whats the "?" translate to
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I to am curious Hawaiiancamaro about the ? mark. How about B55 & B80 ??I looked on the camaro site for decode the numbers, but they weren't there. Thanks guys for your help. The knowledge is endless here.
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Where would I find a chassis sheet in this car ?? Or did it hit the garbage can after it was built at the factory ?? Thanks for the input. [/ QUOTE ] If it was not in the glove box then you probably will not find it. This applies to 3rd gen Novas. There are build sheets and there are build sheets. What I mean is that the build sheet that most people find before 71-72 model year was the Fisher Body build sheets [The FB UOIT sheet (Uniform Option Identification Tag) sheets as JohnZ said above]. The GM build sheets were called Broadcast Sheets. The Fisher Body build sheets were probably called broadcast sheets too. Only us enthusiasts call them build sheets. The one in the seats was used on the Fisher Body side of the factory. This sheet was printed at the seat sub assembly area. They would pull a sheet off of the printer and build the seat according to the trim code box on the sheet. The trim tag was tucked in to the seat springs to identify the seats after they were taken to the line. They were loaded on racks according to SEQuence number. The Sequence number was a daily run order the cars were in as they set on the line. If the car was still on the line at the end of the day that was OK. The sequence numbers were big enough to allow that. The sequence number was reset each morning. The Fisher Body line worker would have the cars running down the line. He would look at the sequence number crayoned on the body or the similar build sheet taped to the front of the firewall. He would grab the seat that matched the sequence number. Now, if the rack had all or several of the same trim type seats, the worker would not always grab the exact seat by sequence number. More than likely he just looked at the door panels and grabbed the seat the same trim type as the door panels. That is why it is common to find a Fisher Body sheet with the wrong body number. This paper style Fisher Body sheet was replaced by the punch card style. This happened as Fisher Body was absorbed into General Motors Assembly Division in the 71-72 time frame. Build sheets used after the consolidation were a combined version of the Fisher Body and the two GM build sheets. The GM build sheets were called Broadcast Sheets. There were Body Broadcast Sheets and Chassis Broadcast Sheets. There are very few know copies of the GM Broadcast sheet used before the consolidation. Lanny Weatherford has one that he displays with his original car. See the May 1996 Edition of Nova Times. After 1972 the Broadcast sheet changed to the black and white landscape 8.5 x 11 sheets. I have seen several of these with cars posted on ebay. Fisher Body sheets were used by the trim guys. So the sheet could be found under or behind any of the trim pieces. I.e. behind the door panels, the carpet, the head liner, the package tray, the dash pad. Even under the tar paper floor sound deadener. The likelihood of finding this tag under the car or in the engine compartment is very slim. The very fact that they were in the interior and protected is why they have survived. The RPO codes listed on the sheet are Only the codes that Fisher Body needed to build the body part of the car. They did not list every code the car had. It also listed the codes necessary to get the job done. If you ordered a console and a standard 3 speed. It would only list D55. If you did not have the console it would only list M20. It would not list anything that GM installed which did not need Fisher Body to prep the body. In 1970 it did not even list the engine RPO. Starting in 1970 they did not even list the Engine RPO any longer. The gas tank was a common place to place the GM broadcast sheets on FULL FRAME cars. This was a ready place to look to see what the chassis needed before it was mounted on the body. So when the LOS plant added the Nova to the other cars they were making, they still continued to tape them to the gas tank. If you have a 71+ LOS car then look there. Just a reminder The Nova Research Project is seeking copies of any and all broadcast sheets, shipper copies, window sticker, and POP that you find in addition to the Trim tag and VIN information. Thanks, Greg
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2nd line block 4 whats the "?" translate to [/ QUOTE ] Just a glitch going to the printer. Remember technology was not as stable as it is today. The [space]? is supposed to be a B as in B90. The glitch pushed the characters to the right too. B90 = Door and quarter window frame molding is part of the custom exterior package ZJ2. So it should be called out on this sheet. B55 = Deluxe front seat cushion. Part of the custom interior (744) B80 = Bright Drip Rail Molding. Greg
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Good summarization Greg. One thing we've found on the '70 Deuces is that the punch card appears to have begun usage in the 06B week. I don't believe we've found a 'seat sheet' and a punch card in the same car. The 06B build week is a transition week for other items as well, so hopefully these findings helps narrow down the punch card introduction.
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Marlin,
Thanks, We talked about 06B as the transition week for the punch cards before. I agree, same as seat belts. Greg
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Thanks Greg. So with the 2 sheets, they would of been attached to the upper & lower back seats?? Or why is there 2 sheets??
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