4 Sp cross member to the subframe

[jl8z28]

there not the ones for the Camaro, the ones that HB City have are a close reproduction

[Nova Research Project]

Hello Jason,

There are many one year only bolts on the 1968 Novas. This is one of them. 69-70 were most like the 69 Camaro.

I am always surprised how many little differences there are in 1968's.

Greg

[enio45]

Hummmm, logically the flanged head make sense due to the fact it has to be inserted thru the frame, so a socket type tool is necessary to hold the bolt as its inserted into the hole.

HBC bolts, have the one side washer for the slotted holes on the crossmember, but the bolts i believe are not correct if you buy my theory as stated above. WOJ's bolts look to to have the flanged head to me?

Any one from CRG listening?

[Woj]

Ed,

The pix of the bolt Jason posted are the same as the ones installed on my Camaro. Same head markings too.

If Mike did not send you pictures, let me know. Mine are fairly rusty, but the detail can still be seen.

I agree that the flange makes sense due to the location and positioning.

Phil Woj.

[m22mike]

For you hardware freaks.. [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/naughty.gif[/img]
Here are the pictures of Phil's subframe bolts, car has never been messed with. Cleary shows washer head bolts. Second photo shows the use of a flat washer under a split washer. This detail was only use on the r/h 2ea. bolts that are on the side of the crossmember that has the two slotted holes. The reasoning should be obvious. These bolts are not called out in the 69 AIM, most likely the crossmember was already bolted to the frame from the vendor.

[SS427]

Nice detail shots of an original assembly. Thanks for sharing Mike.

[jasonL78]

Wow from the multiple pm's I have gotten I wish I had several sets. LOL! But I only have 3 bolts and 1 that can be made correct for a full set.. If Eddie don't want them then I will offer them to the first PM I got. AS for a price I have no idea. I was just trying to help a member out.

Jason

[enio45]

Very very interesting - thanks mike and Woj for the pics.....need to check AMK to see if they have right head markings....i know they have the correct flanged bolt - need to check the head markings

[enio45]

Based on Phils pic and the number of threads sticki ng up past the nut, with the washer and the lock washer, the bolt length is 1 1/8th with a flanged head.

This would be the case for both sides - length is the same.

[m22mike]

Eddie
I would not be to concerned about the head markings, GM always had multiple hardware vendors. I saw a survivor 69 a few years ago the had three different vendor marks on the four trunk lid bolts.
You say they are about an 1 1/8&quot;, I will look in my extra stuff.

Mike