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Old 09-29-2019, 01:15 PM
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Does MCACN keep copies of the old completed judging forms? Wonder if they would have the ones from this car and could they be posted for us to see.

Ron Mroz normally helps judge the fullsize at the show but couldn't make it that year. Wonder who the other judges were besides Bill Braun. Don't you have to have credentials of some sort to be a judge at that show?
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Does MCACN keep copies of the old completed judging forms? Wonder if they would have the ones from this car and could they be posted for us to see.

Ron Mroz normally helps judge the fullsize at the show but couldn't make it that year. Wonder who the other judges were besides Bill Braun. Don't you have to have credentials of some sort to be a judge at that show?
Warren, Ron was out of town that year (with his daughter as I recall). This car NEVER would have flown with him as he is a 67 guy. There are so may things bogus about this car, I don't know where to start, but you already know what they are as we have discussed them. Car is a total fabrication. Surprised Dana is running it again as it was vetted out many years ago at one or two of their events. BJ contacted me about the car when it was asked to be run through their auction. I sent them a list of items on the car and they politely declined unless the person would agree that is was a recreation, which they would not.
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remember this discussion on the old SS427 site, soooo much wrong with this car, TT denoted TH400 trans, frame had the 400 crossmember mounts, no 4D on the tag, tach redline was messed with, very amateur attempt at changing the casting number... owner was a real piece of work, would not take CLONE as an answer.
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So who judged it a 992?
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remember this discussion on the old SS427 site, soooo much wrong with this car, TT denoted TH400 trans, frame had the 400 crossmember mounts, no 4D on the tag, tach redline was messed with, very amateur attempt at changing the casting number... owner was a real piece of work, would not take CLONE as an answer.
Yep, I remember all that, too. Very unfortunate that it got judged at MCACN.
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wow I just spent 90 minutes reading all the past sites and posts about this car.


Very nice to read the experts advice on such a car. Seems to be a real FAKE!
Imposture if you will..
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Sold for $107,500.
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So how did it get a gold award at MCACN with a 992 out of 1000?
VERY simple answer; this car was judged at MCACN as a DAY 2 car, NOT Concours Stock. Day 2 allows period correct replacement parts, including engines, trans etc etc.

I think in the transition between the several auction sellers this car has seen, the owners represented it to imply it was Concours judged and not Day 2. You'll see that none of the previous sellers offered to show the MCACN certifications, as they clearly say Day 2.

This is also the reason we changed the terminology for our modified cars to Blue, Red and White ribbon instead of Bronze/Silver and Gold, as some sellers would state their car was judged Gold at MCACN, and potential buyers would incorrectly assume it was Concours Stock.

Bottom line, as always, is that buyers need to do their due diligence.

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Does MCACN keep copies of the old completed judging forms? Wonder if they would have the ones from this car and could they be posted for us to see.

Ron Mroz normally helps judge the fullsize at the show but couldn't make it that year. Wonder who the other judges were besides Bill Braun. Don't you have to have credentials of some sort to be a judge at that show?
No, we record the score and keep that in our registry. Original sheets are always given to the owner. As I recall, Dru D. was involved, since it was a Day 2 car, NOT Concours Stock.

Please see my previous post as to how this car scored a Gold.

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