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Old 02-14-2007, 12:56 AM
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Sam,

The body number on the trim tag matches the body number on the computer card. I did not know that until today. I was thinking this card wasn't that important, I never realized the body numbers matched. Very cool.

I can't read all the numbers on the other card stuck in the bucket seat back. I'll try to get a portable mirror to check it out.

Will also post a picture as soon as I can figure out how to do that.

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Old 02-14-2007, 04:21 AM
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I have some 1969 Super Sport Chevelles buidsheets built at Baltimore,Framingham & Fremont plants sumbitted in the registry.
I also have a few 69 COPO Chevelle,(Baltimore),buildsheets as well.
Needless to say,they are scarce for these vehicles.


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Excuse my ignorance Rick, I did not know there was a '69 Chevelle SS registry. Do tell more . Have you derived stats from it? What are your thots on the infamous "L" on the trim tags (Leeds & Baltimore) and there association with an SS Chevelle?

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These were submitted from a few 1970 Chevelle owners for the 1970 Chevelle registry I oversee,be it Malibu,Super Sport,Elcamino,Convertible or Station Wagons.There is too much to correlate with the 1970 information vehicles alone,so the few 69's I receive are just for comparison with the 70's.
I tend to believe the "L" stood more as an indicator for a Big Block,vs. a Super Sport.
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Back to the "L" discussion. I have two Baltimore 69 SS Chevelles and both have the letter "L" on the trim tag. A previously owned 69 SS from Kansas City also had the "L" on the trim tag.

I haven't yet seen or heard of a Malibu with the "L" yet. Would like to know more. This has been discussed on Team Chevelle and as of yet, no one has debunked the theory.

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In 1970,you could get a NON Super Sport Malibu or Elco with an LS-3 402/330Hp engine.It could show the letter "L" on the trim tag.
For 1969,the Super Sport Chevelle & Elcamino came with Big Blocks only,so it is difficult to say for sure if that "L" denoted a Super Sport or a Big Block.
I believe 427 CID COPO Chevelles have been found with the "L" too.
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Default Re: IBM punch card (interior trim)

Contributing to the discussion (albeit very old):

'69 Baltimore-built SS396 Chevelle Convertible

Trim Tag:

<span style="font-family: 'Courier New'">
BODY BY FISHER 2
ST 69 13667 BAL121651 BDY
TR 791 51 A PNT
10D L048813
</span>

The 10D is consistent with the NCRS shipping report of 10/28/1968 assembly start.

The L is consistent with the car being an SS396, and the 'fossil find photos' showing all visible SS396 indicators on the car, including:

<ul style="list-style-type: disc">[*] SS396 emblem and blacked-out rear cove (body pierced)[*] SS396 emblems on front fenders, behind wheels (body pierced)[*] SS396 emblem on front grille[*] SS396 emblems on interior door panels[*] Black painted headlamp bezels, deluxe tail lamp bezels, polished trim bezels on front parking lights, and front side marker lamp bezels without engine displacement.[*] Styled 5-spoke SS wheels[/list]
The 813 matches the inspection sequence on the car's IBM punch card.

Only thing left to decode on the TT is the 0-4-8 in between the &quot;L&quot; and the &quot;813&quot;
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You have the right guys to get the details here!!

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Sam,
I sent you a PM. I may be able to help.

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Sam,
I received your info. It's a tough job because there's not much printing on it but I will get back to you. The key is the column codes where the punches are. If my deciphering agrees with what you know about the car, then the punch cards can be better than a build sheet because the people reproducing the build sheets know nothing about punch cards.
Keep in mind that I am basing this on my understanding of punch cards from 1964 back. Since the options changed over the years, the punch card keys may have changed as well. If a dealer ordering card (any card) for '69 can be found, then it will all make sense with no doubt how the car was built.

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