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I see lots of places that give you a guide on restored cars and there value but is there any that show survivor pricing I know it will depend on the condition of the car just don't know how to value these cars
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Old 02-19-2021, 04:39 PM
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Survivor cars are more experience and gut feeling when it comes to pricing. Each one has to be judged on its own merits.
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Survivor cars are more experience and gut feeling when it comes to pricing. Each one has to be judged on its own merits.
Great Topic !!! Would be Nice to have something to get you in the ballpark, But as Lowmile has nailed it in his response. That's Probably why there couldn't really be an accurate guide ?
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Old 02-20-2021, 08:24 PM
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Restored cars can be broken down as far as cost. The only difference in their pricing would be if the car has the original drive train. And that can affect the price by about 50%. For instance, a restored 1969 Z/28 NOM is around $75,000. With original drive train it jumps to $125,000.

As said, with a survivor, it depends on the condition. Saying original paint isn't enough. What's the condition of the paint? Does it show it's age or is it like brand new? And prices are all over the place. A 1967 L71 Corvette survivor can be as low as $80,000 or as high as $600,000.
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Restored cars can be broken down as far as cost. The only difference in their pricing would be if the car has the original drive train. And that can affect the price by about 50%. For instance, a restored 1969 Z/28 NOM is around $75,000. With original drive train it jumps to $125,000.

As said, with a survivor, it depends on the condition. Saying original paint isn't enough. What's the condition of the paint? Does it show it's age or is it like brand new? And prices are all over the place. A 1967 L71 Corvette survivor can be as low as $80,000 or as high as $600,000.
Exactly right Lee. It's really quite difficult to nail down valuations of unrestored cars. That said, if given a choice of the very best restored car vs a super low mile time capsule, I will take the time capsule every time.
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Add owners/buyers to the mix of value variables as some here would be proud to own certain original cars w/ blemishes/failures, even rust if left intact/untouched yet others would think it's pure craziness and couldn't have such a thing in their garage.

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From my perspective, the appreciation for original and unrestored cars of many makes from exotics, to Corvettes, muscle cars and more is increasing.

However, the vast majority of collectors still prefer a glistening piece of over restored jewelry to patina.

Exceptional Survivor type examples tend to demand more than their equivalent restored examples, in my opinion.
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In 2010 when i chose a 32,000 mile, Original ,Unrestored,California 70 RS Z/28 for the same amount of money as some of the very best restored cars for sale at the time , people thought i was Crazy and weren't shy about telling me so ! Ive never regretted it and it seems alot of the same people have come around and appreciate the car more & more for what it is,than what it isnt. And i do drive it !!!
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A topic that can easily bring a variety of opinions and nothing wrong with that.

I for one think most all of the GUIDES out there are BS and give most buyers and sellers an unrealistic idea of a car’s value. Restored being the main guides.

There are so many variables that create a value: and most of these guides use a Broad Brush and don’t factor in all those things that can’t be known until you know the car being discussed.

Original sheetmetal. Color Combos. Drivetrain options. Seat options. Docs. Verified Numbers and Docs. Quality and Correctness of restoration. Repro parts vs Original and NOS. Known Owner hx. How long ago painted/restored. The variables go on and on. Ballpark values can be had but in my experience... the GUIDES are not worth it to most. Just my opinion
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I agree with Stefano-I think the market for survivors has come around, and has finally grown enough to push their value a bit beyond the best restored cars, but the market for restored cars is bigger and the two sets of buyers don't overlap as much as some would think. I still think the best examples of each still end up in the same basic neighborhood, if you're just trying to get an idea of what it might cost to play in that game.
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