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Old 02-06-2023, 02:38 PM
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Default Vin stamp whoops?

Can of worms. I have a 69 Norwood built camaro. Engine vin stamp is xxxx9x....the vin is identical except xxxx3x. Is it a possibility that that occurred at the factory? Yes correct casting date and correct engine 2 letter code for application.

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Old 02-06-2023, 03:21 PM
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While entirely possible, I would upload a few close up detailed pictures. The sleuths here know their broaching.
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Typically sequence errors occur in the last digit, not in the "tens" place.

Knowing the process, I'm a little at a loss as to how that would happen.

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My '66 vette has the digit one off in the hundred position, a 0 instead of a 9. The odds of that happening vs. someone finding that block from another car??? This is just part of the saga imo. I can imagine if I ever sold it some would walk away, but others won't.
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Typically sequence errors occur in the last digit, not in the "tens" place.

Knowing the process, I'm a little at a loss as to how that would happen.

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The worker at that element has to take a wizz and cannot hold it waiting for an ARO to come to replace him. The worker leaves the position on the line and multiple unit drivetrains pass by unstamped.

If the ARO then arrives the Foreman is notified of the discrepancy in totals and then a repair team is sent up to catch up with the car later either on the long lines or in the repair lot. Same deal if no ARO arrives at all.

The repair stamper is then used. That's how I was told it happened at Norwood.

Repair stamper is the long slim bar on the right side.

It all boils down to simple human error.
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I've posted these pictures before. Here is the engine pad from my 1967 427 Corvette VIN 350, made the third day of production. Here is the transmission stamp from the same car, VIN 349. Neither component has ever been out of the car.
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I've posted these pictures before. Here is the engine pad from my 1967 427 Corvette VIN 350, made the third day of production. Here is the transmission stamp from the same car, VIN 349. Neither component has ever been out of the car.
That's what I'm saying - off by one is easy to do.
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The worker at that element has to take a wizz and cannot hold it waiting for an ARO to come to replace him. The worker leaves the position on the line and multiple unit drivetrains pass by unstamped.

If the ARO then arrives the Foreman is notified of the discrepancy in totals and then a repair team is sent up to catch up with the car later either on the long lines or in the repair lot. Same deal if no ARO arrives at all.

The repair stamper is then used. That's how I was told it happened at Norwood.

Repair stamper is the long slim bar on the right side.

It all boils down to simple human error.
Ok - I guess I could see that. Hate it when that happens.

It would be an amazing coincidence that they would be off by ten units - but - I've seen some amazing coincidences.

By the way - it's not just the one car that would need repair. It's all the ones between when the discovery was made back to the VIN stamp operation, too.

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Keith,

Yes that's the way I understood the description. The entire vin range affected by the missing element was subject to repair. For repair purposes the vin gang was supposed to be arranged by hand taped, positioned by hand and then struck. Two man operation.

Hi seniority guys got the repair jobs... and those characters are small to begin with so an arrangement error like OP's question does not seem to be inconsistent with the guys that did this who said that they would take turns covering for each other so they could take "long lunches" at the corner BAR.
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i have seen quite a few "mis" "incorrectly" "double" "none" stamped vins on pontiacs over the years and these are on cars that appear to have never been messed with, ones that were original owners that had never had it back for any warranty work etc...
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