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Old 10-11-2022, 11:26 AM
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The way dad got some history with running B/Stock with that car:

When he first got the car he took it up to Ubly to run. He knew the tech guy - Brad somebody - and as he pulled in Brad asked "B /Stock?".

Dad said "aaaayup - B/Stock".

With the aluminum front end, special cam from Mac McKellar, and tubular exhaust headers the car was bogus as heck.

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Old 10-11-2022, 11:34 AM
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Dad was trying to run the aluminum exhaust manifolds on the street and they kept burning up.

After patching them a bunch of times, and putting patches on the patches he decided to fabricate a set of tubular steel exhaust headers.

He made them really short - which, at the time, pretty much everybody said would not work.

Mac McKellar saw them and liked them and said "I'm gonna make you a cam for those."

So he did. He even stamped the "correct" numbers on the end so it looked original.

Royal and Ramchargers were always picking at each other.

Ramchargers protested Dad one day and made him tear down. They actually took that cam and set it up in V blocks on the tailgate of their wagon. They spun it with a cam wheel on the front and a dial indicator on the lobes - and declared it legit.

It was, of course, bogus as heck.

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Old 10-11-2022, 11:39 AM
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One more story about "the scales":

Our '65 GTO was actually lighter than it needed to be for B/Stock. One technique for making the weight break was to roll through tech with the tow bar (and safety chains) still in place, toolbox and slicks in the trunk, fuel tank full of fuel and me (all 45lbs or so) standing on the scales! After passing tech, all those items would come flying off/out of the car in time for competition.

We did get caught "light" on one occasion. Dad made a pass and, before he retrieved the time slip, the tech official directed him across the scale.

"I don't want to go across the scale" dad said.

The tech official unrelentingly directed him back. "I really don't want to go across the scale" dad said.

"You have to - you just set a B/Stock record" the tech replied.

"You can keep your record, I'm not going across that scale!"

Well, he did, and it earned him a brief "vacation" from racing at that particular track.
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Great memories, Keith, thanks for sharing!
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Old 10-11-2022, 07:33 PM
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The guys at Royal, as is often the case, were a bunch of cut ups.

Wangers had ordered an aluminum third member for his car and was getting really antsy for its arrival. When it did (finally) show up the mechanics saw it sitting on the floor strapped to a pallet; they noted Dad's car sitting a few bays down and somebody thought it would be hilariously funny to install the carrier in Dad's car and not tell anybody.

Dad didn't notice until some time later, when he was under the car doing something else.

Jim continued to get more and more agitated and finally gave up looking for his aluminum part. I don't think he knows what happened to it to this day. He probably would not find it hilariously funny.

(Well - he might, now. Not then, though).

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