Electric COPO and Electric Crate Motors

[ZiggyL78]

All explained.It still sucks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilZ_fb75j_8&t=187s

[GMC_Typhoon]

I for one welcome our robot overlords.

[x33rs]

I don't care for it.

We haven't liked the direction the big 3 had been heading for years. Which is why we went back 50 years, sold all our new stuff, and just drive our classics daily. Don't care for the fuel injection anymore, tired of computers, too many gadgets, too many safety features, back up camera this, lane correction that, it's just too much. And none of it seems to be helping drivers because they are still just as bad as ever, lol.

I don't see myself even watching 2 electric cars drag racing. I'm not paying to get in the gate for that. Noise, the crisp pop of high compression and the smell of high test fuel are all part of the attraction for us.

Okay off the soap box,
Happy Thanksgiving

[Lee Stewart]

LOL . . . what a bunch of Luddites!

[x33rs]

I'm the short one in the back

[70 copo]

All fine and dandy, I like the cartoon but lets look deeper shall we? I think that until we gain the technology to charge cars wireless - the current grid will not even begin to manage the draw required.

The math here is pretty simple: a home charging system for a Tesla currently requires 75 amp service - just for the car. The average small house is equipped with 100 amp service in total.

Funny but true - as part of UN Agenda 21 implementation the group tasked with nudging us plebes into technology acceptance actually takes on the acronym "eMOB".

Historically electric cars were already developed about 120 years ago, and were abandoned because of the limitation of energy that could be stored.

So I think electric cars are still dead on re-arrival with the exception of perhaps a city commuter (as a short trip car) where the existing hi voltage infrastructure is already in place for charging stations. The Chevy Bolt fits in here perfectly with a 32 amp charging station the car takes about 8 hours to charge.

The bottom line I think will be that unless these cars have at least a similar recharging time to that of a gasoline car there will be little near term adaptation by people unless compliance is forced.

Welcome to the future!

[McCune]

Graphene.

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by GMC_Typhoon

I for one welcome our robot overlords.

Me too.

I was the Assistant Program Engineer for the Gen I Volt and its derivatives. I managed the 2012 program, plus export/overseas and RH drive (including Opel, Vauxhall and Holden).

As a result I drove a Volt or Opel captured test fleet vehicle for about a four year period. The assembly plant is about 30 miles from my house, which means I could drive all the way there on one charge, top off at the plant and drive all the way home on one charge. The only time I kicked the internal combustion engine on was if I deviated from my normal route, or if we took an extended trip (like going up north).

To me, the beauty of an electric vehicle (besides not getting my clothes all smelly - and the instantaneous torque) is that you have the opportunity to move towards alternative fuel. Wind, hydro, solar, nuclear are all available for the taking. With petrol you are pretty much stuck with petrol (maybe corn).

If you haven't driven one you owe it to yourself to do so. Unexpected benefits were that they were zippy, with a low center of gravity and instant torque, and did surprisingly well in the snow (even though we worked with Goodyear to design tires that were especially low rolling resistance). They even had a "sport" mode, which became my default setting.

Did I mention instantaneous torque?

K

[70 copo]

It appears that GM believes that they have stumbled on to the electric equivalent of the Model T, and that would explain the sudden shift to electric vehicles from a technology investment standpoint.

Word is that GM will launch two new cars soon based on Bolt technology.

[JKZ27]

I get it. Its coming, regardless. 700hp can be fun no matter what's producing it. The environment, resources, "safety", progress.... I get it. And, I guess I'm ok with it.

But, I have a love affair with machines and harnessed fire, the simplistic beauty of oil bathed metal on metal with no logic other than mechanically operated human input resulting in perfect or imperfect, but direct, outputs. I grew up living and loving this stuff and I can't just "un-love" it now because its being replaced. I make my living working on new cars so I'm quite aware of new technology and its relevance and importance. As of right now, though, if I buy an electric car it will be out of necessity, not because I find them fun to drive.