Go Back   The Supercar Registry > General Discussion > Supercar/Musclecar Discussion


View Poll Results: How would you restore these race cars if you found one of them.
Restore the car stock 11 18.97%
Restore the car to as raced 47 81.03%
Voters: 58. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #51  
Old 02-15-2023, 02:08 PM
SS427's Avatar
SS427 SS427 is offline
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Pleasant Plains, IL
Posts: 10,150
Thanks: 2,675
Thanked 3,873 Times in 1,003 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by turbo69bird View Post
With todays stroker assemblies you can pull out compression add cubes and end up with the same HP and more torque and drivability actually drive them and enjoy them . Outwardly they are exactly the same stock look they had and the same performance without the worry of having to grab race gas all the time .
The down side is nothing makes that kind of sound unless you have some ungodly compression which a detuned engine will not have (correct me if I am wrong here). I just love that sound.
__________________
Rick Nelson
Musclecar Restoration and Design, Inc
www.musclecarrestorationanddesign.com
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62r-6vgk2_8
specializing in (only real) LS6 Chevelle restorations
Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to SS427 For This Useful Post:
67since67 (02-15-2023), dustinm (02-16-2023), L_e_e (02-16-2023), Tenney (02-15-2023)
  #52  
Old 02-15-2023, 02:25 PM
olredalert olredalert is offline
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Marine City, Mi.
Posts: 8,847
Thanks: 27,498
Thanked 3,791 Times in 1,605 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SS427 View Post
The down side is nothing makes that kind of sound unless you have some ungodly compression which a detuned engine will not have (correct me if I am wrong here). I just love that sound.
----That's what everyone always said about Red Alert once my second rebuild went back in the car, Rick. 14 to 1 compression just makes a great sound!.....Bill S
Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to olredalert For This Useful Post:
67since67 (02-15-2023), SS427 (02-15-2023), Tenney (02-15-2023)
  #53  
Old 02-15-2023, 10:01 PM
turbo69bird's Avatar
turbo69bird turbo69bird is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Here
Posts: 254
Thanks: 93
Thanked 563 Times in 129 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SS427 View Post
The down side is nothing makes that kind of sound unless you have some ungodly compression which a detuned engine will not have (correct me if I am wrong here). I just love that sound.
I don’t agree with that at all. I have a RAV pro stock engine 13.6 to 1 compression and a D port low compression 9.0 to 1 turbo engine in my other car. They sound exactly the same. You’d never be able to tell me which was which. My turbo engine even when not I. Boost sounds angry and nasty! Just like my RAV engine .

Kind of hard to hear it the sound quality sucks in this old video

https://youtube.com/shorts/yhWOybem01w?feature=share

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aqGcHD2mnKs


https://youtube.com/shorts/W5MBXrZvMqU?feature=share

Last edited by turbo69bird; 02-15-2023 at 10:12 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 02-15-2023, 10:57 PM
tjs44 tjs44 is online now
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: long beach,ca
Posts: 907
Thanks: 3
Thanked 187 Times in 81 Posts
Default

Same cam same CR same CI I dont think any diff in sound on a RA III engine and a RA V engine.Been there done that.JMHO,Tom
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 02-16-2023, 03:40 AM
turbo69bird's Avatar
turbo69bird turbo69bird is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Here
Posts: 254
Thanks: 93
Thanked 563 Times in 129 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tjs44 View Post
Same cam same CR same CI I dont think any diff in sound on a RA III engine and a RA V engine.Been there done that.JMHO,Tom
Tom we were talking about the difference in compression ratio in the sound not necessarily the d port Vs V port . I only used the V and D port because that’s what I had for comparison in my garage in different compressions, and wanted to explain the difference . That the RAV was a higher performance version and higher compression. Yet the D port lower performance engine w low compression sounded the same . In fact most people who hear both side by side idling feel the Turbo car sounds nastier and snottier even though it’s far lower compression , smaller cam , and blows through the turbo which knocks down some decibels. . RAV is a roller cam 650 lift range about a 112 LSA and the d port turbo car is a solid flat tappet in the 550 range 114 LSA.

I’ve built RAIV both ways stroker w low compression and original w high compression and I dint feel there was any dicernable difference in the way they sounded. We are really only taking about 1 point to 1.5 points of compression between the two on those engines if the original is built to 1969 NHRA specs even For a stock eliminator to a drivable on pump gas stroker RAIV.
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 02-16-2023, 10:20 PM
tjs44 tjs44 is online now
Yenko Contributing Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: long beach,ca
Posts: 907
Thanks: 3
Thanked 187 Times in 81 Posts
Default

Compression DOES make a diff,sometime BIG.Tom
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

O Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.