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Old 03-07-2020, 03:56 PM
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To be fair here there are still more fires with ICE cars simply because the majority of vehicles are ICE.

Perhaps GM's new batteries are fire resistant? As of now however EV's catch fire all by themselves and that is another teething pain associated with the technology.

So you got to ask yourself? Do I put my EV in the garage at night and roll the dice?

Choices aplenty.
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Old 03-07-2020, 08:46 PM
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It is not exactly about fun or roller coasters. Please tell me what am I missing here?
Don't think you're missing anything, Phil, per your take on the free market sorting things out. Spot on.
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Old 03-07-2020, 08:49 PM
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7:57 (the whole clip's kinda cool, too) ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhh3JPGEEK8
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Old 03-08-2020, 04:03 PM
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Old 03-08-2020, 04:44 PM
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9:15 ...

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Old 03-09-2020, 01:41 PM
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seems like the electric stuff is gaining popularity fast

electric motorcycles, bicycles, lawn mowers, power washers, weed whackers, etc

even electric aircraft

https://www.theatlantic.com/sponsore...ic-flight/208/
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Old 03-09-2020, 01:50 PM
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Wayne,

For the sake of the discussion let's dig a bit further shall we? This is within the context of the burgeoning "right to repair" movement

Quote from GM: “Proponents incorrectly conflate ownership of a vehicle with ownership of the underlying computer software in a vehicle.”

GM has been able to mostly avoid the negativity here to date by simply implementing a lax enforcement stance and building a high quality product that requires on average few repairs. Kudos to GM!

John Deere... has decided to take on the farmers. Like Harley Davidson John Deere has made a calculated decision to show the people who buy, use and depend on its products "who is the boss"

Quick Background on what this issue is:

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...repair-illegal

Now a farmer is taking Deer to the mat:

“The spirit of the right-to-repair is the birthright we all share as a hot-rodding nation,” he says, channeling his inner Thomas Jefferson and Big Daddy Don Garlits".

"Big Tractor says farmers have no right to access the copyrighted software that controls every facet of today’s equipment, even to repair their own machines".

The computer sees a problem and the entire tractor is bricked right then and there - often in the field until an authorized Deere Rep can arrive to fix it or haul it back to the dealer.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...00-000-tractor

SO...What do you want to bet that with the newest electric car technology - GM will likely go full tilt in the near future with the kinds of intellectual control (“an implied license") the enforcement tactic of choice that Deer has in place today BTW all conveniently wrapped in the need for "safety" of course.
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Old 03-09-2020, 02:04 PM
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So for you future electric Hot Rodding guys, here is your likely future as an "outlaw" hot rod hacker

Tractors today....cars tomorrow just saying:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/x...inian-firmware
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Old 03-09-2020, 09:29 PM
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The new electric cars can go so fast already I'm not sure how much hotrodding will be needed anyway. :-)
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Old 03-10-2020, 10:29 PM
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Interesting!

https://jalopnik.com/chevy-is-puttin...1842213938/amp
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