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Old 02-19-2022, 11:32 PM
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Mark 48 improved Advanced Capability torpedo would be the humane way to end the suffering and the smoke.

The hit would break her back and she would be on the bottom in minutes.
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Mark 48 improved Advanced Capability torpedo would be the humane way to end the suffering and the smoke.

The hit would break her back and she would be on the bottom in minutes.
The ship is worth $24.5billion. Who picks up the tab for that? Insurance won't cover an intentionally sunk ship.

Recovery is planned for next week.
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Old 02-20-2022, 12:48 AM
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The ship is worth $24.5billion. Who picks up the tab for that? Insurance won't cover an intentionally sunk ship.

Recovery is planned for next week.
Well let’s look at the facts.

It is a class D Fire. These fires involve combustible metals so extinguishing agents may react with a combustible metal fire causing the severity of the fire to increase.

If it burns itself out then the Law of Salvage can be applied:


The vessel must be in peril, either immediate or forthcoming; the "salvor" must be acting voluntarily and under no pre-existing contract; and the salvor must be successful in their efforts, though payment for partial success may be granted if the environment is protected.

Who is going to authorize that risk?

The ship is currently a maritime hazard and is an environmental menace. Unless the fire is out nobody will allow the ship to dock. It is an explosion hazard.

Because the fires will need to be smothered to extinguish-access to the burning parts of the ship and the logistics of the recovery would be literally epic and would risk life to do so.

The best and safest way to end this and save the environment - is to sink it.
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Old 02-20-2022, 01:05 AM
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Well let’s look at the facts.

It is a class D Fire. These fires involve combustible metals so extinguishing agents may react with a combustible metal fire causing the severity of the fire to increase.

If it burns itself out then the Law of Salvage can be applied:


The vessel must be in peril, either immediate or forthcoming; the "salvor" must be acting voluntarily and under no pre-existing contract; and the salvor must be successful in their efforts, though payment for partial success may be granted if the environment is protected.

Who is going to authorize that risk?

The ship is currently a maritime hazard and is an environmental menace. Unless the fire is out nobody will allow the ship to dock. It is an explosion hazard.

Because the fires will need to be smothered to extinguish-access to the burning parts of the ship and the logistics of the recovery would be literally epic and would risk life to do so.

The best and safest way to end this and save the environment - is to sink it.
The owner of the ship has already contracted with tow boats from a Netherlands company to go get the ship. On board will be fire experts to deal with the fire.
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Old 02-20-2022, 01:15 AM
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The owner of the ship has already contracted with tow boats from a Netherlands company to go get the ship. On board will be fire experts to deal with the fire.
I know what is being reported.

Grab a bowl of popcorn and let’s see how it actually plays out.

They are trying to cool it with sea water now. So far it’s not working.
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The 1/2 Billion cargo loss figure may be close but ship itself not worth 24.5 or even 2.45 if decimal in wrong position.
Luxury Cruise ships twice the width/length including full amenities have been built recently for under 1.5 so how could something much smaller w/ just vehicle ramps and tie-downs cost more?

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The 1/2 Billion cargo loss figure may be close but ship itself not worth 24.5 or even 2.45 if decimal in wrong position.
Luxury Cruise ships twice the width/length including full amenities have been built recently for under 1.5 so how could something much smaller w/ just vehicle ramps and tie-downs cost more?

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I know what is being reported.

Grab a bowl of popcorn and let’s see how it actually plays out.

They are trying to cool it with sea water now. So far it’s not working.
The ship has value as a hulk. They will never sink it. Dream on.
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The ship has value as a hulk. They will never sink it. Dream on.
Happens all over the globe all the time. The fire on this ship is not normal. It is a class D fire. If it burns its way to the ships fuel tanks that is gonna be very bad indeed.

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SINK IT was One of the lessons learned from the 2019 "Grande America" cargo ship disaster. This ship caught fire and sank off the coast of France where over 2,000 cars were onboard. The fire was tremendous along with the associated toxic damage to the environment.

On board the Grande were super cars such as the brand-new 911 GT2 RS customer cars that Porsche had to actually reproduce from scratch all over again to replace them.

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https://www.nautilusint.org/en/news-...ant-than-crew/

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