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Old 09-25-2022, 01:38 PM
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gM plans to take the gentle approach with us non conformist types... Ford not so much.

The plan moving forward is that gM dealers that sell Cadillac and Buick will receive buy out offers for dealers that are unwilling or unable to spend the money required to fully service electric vehicles.

Dealers that agree to take the buyouts will only be allowed to sell Chevrolets which positions Chevy as the gM internal combustion brand moving forward.

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Ford has made similar conditional requirements to its dealers. Ford wants to move toward 100 percent online sales as they dismiss the direct sales partners that built the company brand over the past century. The end goal for FORD is “no inventory … and 100 percent remote pickup and delivery.” Long-time dealers will be forced into repairs only.

Ford also plans to restrict parts inventories which will by design - frustrate people wanting to quickly repair existing ICE fleets. This a less than subtle NUDGE for Ford owners to simply give up - and buy an EV of course. This Ford experiment will be interesting to watch because it will require Ford to be successful with BOTH its lobbying efforts to overturn state laws that require vehicle sales to be through dealers - and the avalanche of litigation that is sure to follow.

Ford news link here: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2022/09...nt-set-prices/
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Now for those of you who have put all the pieces together the death of the CAMARO is 100 percent caused by gM and declining sales are likewise 100% caused by gM as they intentionally sabotaged the brand beginning in 2019 with the torridly bad refresh of the body. Since then:

Zero advertising for Camaro

Seemingly continious and intentional assembly bottlenecking at Grand River Assembly Plant resulting in pissed off customers that ordered Camaros.

Price increases-an obvious attempt to price buyers out of the car... .



You see if the Cadillac is going to be exclusively electric and the Camaro is built on the Cadillac platform - then Camaro either becomes EV or goes away.

This was and is an internal battle within gM of course-- with the some holding out hope that the Camaro would be built at Boling Green on the new C-8 platform to save it and that's why these renders keep popping up on the internet.
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Attention, potential car buyers: New electric vehicle charging stations are on their way to highway locations near you.

All 50 states received final approval Tuesday to begin construction on a first nationwide network of EV charging stations that places one roughly every 50 miles (80 kilometers) along interstate highways, part of the Biden administration’s plan to spur widespread adoption of zero-emission cars.

The Transportation Department said it had OK’d EV charger plans from a last set of 17 states, triggering the release of $1.5 billion in federal funds to all jurisdictions nationwide — or $5 billion over five years — to install or upgrade chargers along 75,000 miles (120,000 kilometers) of highway from coast to coast, with a goal of 500,000 EV chargers nationwide. Plans for the other 33 states and the District of Columbia were approved earlier this month.

By year’s end, drivers could start seeing expansions and upgrades to existing highway EV stations in states such as California, Colorado, Florida and Pennsylvania that now feature at least four fast-charger ports, enabling EVs to fully recharge in about an hour.

Construction of new EV charging locations could begin by next spring.

https://www.kob.com/ap-new-mexico/st...rging-network/
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Oh boy... an unknown wait time to make it to an open charging spot- then an HOUR to charge?

Hard Pass.
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Help me to understand this a bit. How will the kwh rate be set for these stations? Will it be a flat rate nationwide rate or locally set? Since the taxpayer is footing the bill for the install (and presumed upkeep), the only cost will be the kwh? Also, it seems that this is putting the government in direct competition with private enterprise who might want to install charging stations? It would be like the government building gas stations next to Sunoco's etc. I bet that would go over well. Maybe this has been discussed and thought through.
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"Maybe this has been discussed and thought through."

Not likely.
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From the US Dept. Of Transportation

Historic Step: All Fifty States Plus D.C. and Puerto Rico Greenlit to Move EV Charging Networks Forward, Covering 75,000 Miles of Highway

https://www.transportation.gov/brief...ve-ev-charging
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Help me to understand this a bit. How will the kwh rate be set for these stations? Will it be a flat rate nationwide rate or locally set? Since the taxpayer is footing the bill for the install (and presumed upkeep), the only cost will be the kwh? Also, it seems that this is putting the government in direct competition with private enterprise who might want to install charging stations? It would be like the government building gas stations next to Sunoco's etc. I bet that would go over well. Maybe this has been discussed and thought through.
How do they set the price of a gallon of gas on the US Interstates. They are definitely not the same for each state.

Sorry - no taxpayer money involved - Monolopy Money - just spend what you don't have knowing it will never be held accountable for.

The Govt. is paying for it but it is not running the EV charging stations. It will be up to the individaul states to do that.
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And everyone charging their vehicles pays how much, and by what means for this service?
I assume most will pay by credit card? Everything about EV's are such a Joke when you look at the WHOLE process.

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The Govt. is paying for it but it is not running the EV charging stations. It will be up to the individual states to do that.
Somehow this doesn't make me feel any better
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