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More than 201?
Was curious what the thoughts are on the idea that the Z16 total of 201 were hardtops, and that if there was a convertible, it wasn't a true Z16 but had all the equipment. A friend of a friend claims he knows someone in the Detroit area that had a beige 396 convertible.
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Where is that excerpt from?
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From a booklet that has every option available and the number built of each. But it's much more complicated than that. Look at the entry here on ECL codes:
http://chevellestuff.net/qd/terminology.htm Those are the codes with two letter characters. Sometimes an option, like 3.55 gears, has a dozen ECL codes, all signifying a different application (possibly engine, tranny, and maybe something else). I don't know much about this but this is what I have been able to gather. There probably is a key that shows what each of the codes mean, but AFAIK a few Corvette folks have that key and haven't shared it with anyone. But it's the reason why Corvette info exists, while other Bow Tie vehicles have scant information. |
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Here's how it appears on a truck SPID from the era.
In this case the engine is an L47, with an ECL of "20" (whatever that means, as you say). The ECL describes additional detail beyond the RPO, defining proliferation for that component. For an engine, it might define AC vs None, multiple carb vs single, manual trans vs auto, California vs Federal emissions, etc. For a rear axle, it would define ratio, locking vs open, perhaps special brake friction material, etc. So while we know what the ECL does - we don't necessarily have the secret decoder ring. K
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By the time I started with GM (1979) the ECL fell into disuse, so I don't have any firsthand experience with it.
Broadcast codes were still used on the build sheet to facilitate the operations on the line but were no longer reported on the SPID label. K
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Maybe the 'Vert got a '65 L78 396/425 like the '65 Post as this thread... https://www.yenko.net/forum/showthread.php?t=169745 ~ Pete .
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Jeff Helms needs to chime in on this...he has told me the story of the one Z16 convert, but all I remember for sure is that it was destroyed. And it may in fact have been beige....
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But wouldn't it show up in the COPO sheet in the show placard? |
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Based on the quantities of the Z16 specific ECL for other Z16 component options in the same book (all of which reflect only 200 units), I believe the 201 in that document reflects the 200 production coupes built at KC plant, plus the one so-called "prototype" coupe built at Baltimore and converted into a Z16 at the tech center and then sold like a demo car. Z16 and L37 are the only two that show 201 units, while the other options show 200. So I believe they just added one to Z16 and L37 when they allowed the prototype car to be sold.
As to the convertible, based on this book's data, it had to be either a tech center conversion done on a 327 Malibu SS convertible, or a COPO order -- Neither of which would show up in this book's ECL tallies. If it was a COPO, it would have been built with one of the approx 20 extra L37 IX engines that were built at Tonawanda.
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