Whereabouts of Grumpy Jenkin's Camaro Toy IV

[Carleen]

If I look at Draglist and on the Cars that Carmen Rotonda was driving they all have the same number 146

Heavys Vega
Heavys Challenger
Carmens Duster

[Carleen]

1055

[Pro Stock John]

Okay but I shared what he said about the car numbers pretty much verbatim, texting back and forth people might simplify what they send because it's on a phone.

Back to IV, that's the point of this thread. We await to see if the lead pans out.

[Pro Stock John]

Carleen, I've seen this pic once or twice before, I think maybe you are the only one who has it?

I thought it was interesting Carmen did not know the car.

One thing I had heard during the research was that Heavy and Carmen drifted apart at some point but without confirmation it's just a rumor at this point. But it could explain why Carmen did not recognize this car.

There are 1-2 rumors I've heard but I don't want to promote them unless they really focus on the IV.

I'd still like to get a handle on IV's 1980 chassis configuration, don't have that. Joe said Bill of Auto Weld did a round of work on the car, and I have not been able to find any contact information for him or the company. Maybe one of you guys might have insights?

[Pro Stock John]

Are any of Jenkin's crew guys still around, they might remember if the car was an RS when purchased. Given the fact it had a lot of RS content I think it's plausible to think it was an RS rather than not. And the story about the color, Doug Boyce said Grumpy was urged by some photographer to try a different color than white because it was easier to photograph. But then Bill just painted the car white. Since he painted which is known, he might have tinkered with some aspect of the cars. I don't see him adding the rear marker lights but that's just me.

This is the only mention of Bill Hayes I have found:
https://www.billrolikenterprises.com/vintage.php

All of these cool vintage photos were taken by myself between 1966 and 1976, prior to the bulk of my own racing activities. Most were taken at Island Dragway, Great Meadows, NJ, Old Bridge Twp. Raceway Park, Englishtown, NJ, or Indianapolis Raceway Park, Clermont, IN. You will also see a group of unique photos I took during a split, two week stay at Don Carlton's shop in Lenoir, NC, during late 1976 and early 1977. I was assisting local race car welding guru Bill Hayes with fabrication on the Body-In-White Aspen Pro Stock car for NJ Super Stock racer Ed Lukas ("Over The Hill Gang" SS/AA). Don and head wrench Clyde Hodges were working on their other projects, including "stretching" the "Gold" Dodge Colt in preparation for the upcoming 1977 Winternationals, so Lukas wanted to speed up the process and sent us there. A fantastic experience! Sadly, the Aspen was the last car to come out of the Carlton shop, as he passed away as a result of injuries from a testing accident only a few months later.

[67since67]

I snapped these of IV at the inaugural Pro Stock at Pomona 1970.

Please excuse the image quality, the prints were stuck together for 50 years and separating them was challenging. - Bill W

[Carleen]

Shawn Severin gave me these

[JRSully]

Amazing how nice Jenkins team made the rear wheel wells/lips to fit that monster rubber.

[Pro Stock John]

Looped in another buddy to help with research. Today a decent baby step was made. Getting a little closer.

[JoeC]

I made this to show that Toy IV had a 1968 tag.

Some people said it had a 1967 tag but you can see it has the 1968 Fed Safety statement

67 and 68 had the rivets lower on the tag

1969 tags had the rivets in the center