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Old 01-01-2022, 08:38 PM
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Yep, that's how the car looked until someone at the dealership added the derby tops to the poverty caps before delivery to try to make them look like the rallys the owner ordered and was expecting when he got there to pick up his new car.
So, you’re thinking the error at the factory was that the correct argent wheels for rally’s were installed, but they mistakenly included poverty caps, rather than derbys and trim rings? Wonder why the dealer didn’t order the correct derby’s and trim rings?
And if the other speculation is correct that the car arrives at the dealer with the correct rally’s, and a salesman ‘borrowed” them for another car, why weren’t replacements ordered?
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Old 01-02-2022, 03:14 AM
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So, you’re thinking the error at the factory was that the correct argent wheels for rally’s were installed, but they mistakenly included poverty caps, rather than derbys and trim rings? Wonder why the dealer didn’t order the correct derby’s and trim rings?
And if the other speculation is correct that the car arrives at the dealer with the correct rally’s, and a salesman ‘borrowed” them for another car, why weren’t replacements ordered?
No, I believe the factory didn't yet have 14x7 rally wheels available when this car was produced, so they substituted the standard 14x7 steel wheels with trim rings. When trim rings were ordered on standard steel wheels, the wheels were painted silver at the factory. (as these are) The factory shipped it with the silver wheels/trim rings with standard dog dish caps, and the dealer got the brainstorm to add the derby tops to the hubcaps to try to make the wheels look like the rally wheels the customer ordered but did not get. i don't believe any wheels were swapped from anything, the wheels it has are what it was built with, and derby tops were screwed to the base hubcaps at the dealership prior to delivery.
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Old 01-01-2022, 02:31 PM
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There are several living production superintendents who can shed light on the idea of this hub cap mod being a factory activity.

If you like I can get you as close to the truth as one can get.
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Old 01-01-2022, 05:07 PM
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I also like the added trim ring with poverty cap look.
What determine if you got the trim ring or not? style trim?

3934892 would be the correct trim ring for the XT wheel with poverty cap.
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Old 01-01-2022, 07:40 PM
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I also like the added trim ring with poverty cap look.
What determine if you got the trim ring or not? style trim?

3934892 would be the correct trim ring for the XT wheel with poverty cap.
Pretty sure trim rings were a separate option. if you ordered them without any other wheel option, you got silver painted wheels and dog dish caps. Had nothing to do with style trim, those cars still got body colored wheels and no rings unless rings were ordered.
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Old 01-01-2022, 08:35 PM
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Maybe someone will come up with documentation at some point stating to substitute the XT with trim ring and COPO type cap until 14x7 YJ Rally's are produced.
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Old 01-01-2022, 11:18 PM
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A derby will not attach to a XT wheel. These are not Rally Wheels.
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Old 01-02-2022, 07:45 PM
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I think they came that way from the factory. If they had not I think the rims would have been blue body color.
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Old 01-02-2022, 08:19 PM
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if you had a buildsheet would it show the trim rings or would that be just a default build when it showed the XT rims? im really curious as i have a couple of 69 ta's that came with the regular wheels and poverty caps.
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Old 01-02-2022, 09:34 PM
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A 69 SS without optional Rally Wheels would just have XT rims painted body color and the center cap only. No trim rings.
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