ZL1 # 48 coming to Barrett-Jackson

[camaromb]

I don't think 2 Camaro bodies with the ZL1 # 48 vin # stamped in them (pics supplied by owner) is a simple mix up, but maybe that is just being negative.

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camaromb</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I don't think 2 Camaro bodies with the ZL1 # 48 vin # stamped in them (pics supplied by owner) is a simple mix up, but maybe that is just being negative. </div></div>

Tee Hee, Good one.

I am a non negative guy, but I really enjoy good sarcasm.

Ryan

[Lynn]

I can buy the story about an incorrectly typed vin on the title.

I don't get:
1. Trim tag with the bdy number from another known car,
2. Two shells with the same vin stamped on them.

[PeteLeathersac]

The mix up was referring to if the real car exists and got caught up in the haze of this thread also another car(s) appearing w/ the same Vin.
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[eanfld]

If the car has the wrong body number then the trim tag is probably a repro and a new one can easily be made. My question is if the VIN is on the dash and firewall/cowl and seem original as pointed out by a couple of people then do the VINs mean nothing? Why is the removable tag so important over the VINs? I restored a 55 Ford Conv and lost the door tag over the several years it took and had a new one made and it didn't matter since the original VIN was on the frame. Thanks in advance to anyone who can explain this to me about Chevys

[William]

For 67 &amp; some 69 Camaros build configuration is included in the stampings on the body tag. Performance options are part of that info. Since most don’t have factory paperwork after 40+ years the tag is all-important in verifying that a car is in fact a real SS or Z/28. As you can imagine the tags are often messed with. Years ago it was common to swap them from one car to another [nearly always detectable] and for the last 25 years reproduction tags have been available. Those also are usually easily detected. This is a big problem in the Camaro world and it has resulted in general paranoia over ALL body tags, even those that have no build configuration info including all ‘68s, ‘69s built at LA and early Norwood ‘69s.

However none of this applies to the Gibb Chev ZL1s. They were ordered and confirmed in one batch so the body numbers on the tags are in sequence: 222001-222049 with one anomaly. Each body number is tied to the VIN of the car and all those are known. All the paperwork for the Gibb ZL1s exists so the correct body number for #48 is known-and it is incorrect on the tag that was seen on the car.

If #48 really was found the OE tag was gone suggesting the car was raced [and heavily modified] and little of the original car may remain. It will have to be examined by someone who knows what to look for.

ZL1s are very valuable and regularly sell for $500,000+. What is going on here is the hobby policing itself.

[robber6910]

I guess my question is why does that Georgia bill of sale not have the previous or buying owners names on it? Also there are different hand writings on that document. The amount sold for (One Hundred dollars in script), the model name and VIN (coupe 2dr Camaro, 124371Nxxxxxx). Also why is the model year and manufacturer names typed in and not the model info and vin? Why did the bill of sale need to be notarized and signed by a witness?? Sadly the notary info is not on that doc (seal and expiration of notaries license). A simple hand written note stating that the car was sold for $100.00 would've looked much more legit.

[BJCHEV396]

ZL1 #48 will be sold November 2nd,no reserve,at the Toronto Fall Classic Car Auction.For more info www.ccpauctions.com

[Charley Lillard]

Which ZL1 ?

[Ryan1969Chevelle]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Charley Lillard</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Which ZL1 ? </div></div>

Maybe it is ZL1 48.5....

I hope to attend the auction to catch the action.

Ryan