Brooklyn Heavy

[Carleen]

Im not taking any standpoints here, I am not involved and have no interests in pointing anyone out for anything.
Some told me that.
The 70s was not the best time to be an Afroamerican. Especially if you stood out from the crowd.
Heavy did.
He had 20 Race cars, not just any but the best. Sox & Martin, Grumpy's, Harrell's. He used to bring a Caravan of 15 Trucks with Racecars to the Races. They were betting and a lot of money in flow. Heavy had good drivers and won many Races.
People became jealous.
About Heavy. Heavy was die-hard Racer, the only thing on his mind.
On weeknights it was Street racing and on weekends Dragracing on the track.
Some say that it was on Street racing that he made money and it was a lot of money. Not only on the race but also on side betting.

Heavy got too big so they needed to Nail him down.

[EZ Nova]

Originally Posted by Carleen

Im not taking any standpoints here, I am not involved and have no interests in pointing anyone out for anything.
Some told me that.
The 70s was not the best time to be an Afroamerican. Especially if you stood out from the crowd.
Heavy did.
He had 20 Race cars, not just any but the best. Sox & Martin, Grumpy's, Harrell's. He used to bring a Caravan of 15 Trucks with Racecars to the Races. They were betting and a lot of money in flow. Heavy had good drivers and won many Races.
People became jealous.
About Heavy. Heavy was die-hard Racer, the only thing on his mind.
On weeknights it was Street racing and on weekends Dragracing on the track.
Some say that it was on Street racing that he made money and it was a lot of money. Not only on the race but also on side betting.

Heavy got too big so they needed to Nail him down.

Carleen, could very well be true. Stranger things have happened in life. Not saying it was a TRACK drag racer but could se another "street" racer guy getting pissy.

Sounds exactly like the Mike Tyson rape case??????

[Pro Stock John]

I've talked to Doug Boyce about Heavy's cars, and he as a fellow racer agrees with me that most people would not add a vinyl top to a car like IV.

I bet Heavy's brother or Carmen Rotunda would remember the history of each car, because I think there were 2-3 first gen Camaros raced with Heavy's name on the car, but maybe some of the cars were sponsored by him but owned by others.

I can also see where some old timers may have been reticent in the past to connect the dots because Heavy may have had assets seized, and well some of those cars maybe changed hands before that happened.

Just from looking around, I come up with this list:

68 Camaro, orange, vinyl top, grump lump, 427 numbers on the scoop
68 Camaro, former IV car (some say it's the orange one in many of Heavy's pics)
Green Camaro, Carmen's car
69 Camaro, White with orange or red stripes and snorkel hood scoop on SSTs
69 Camaro, orange, black vinyl top, Mopar or Grump lump hood scoop,
70 Camaro, tiger stripes, supposedly a former BM car, grump lump style scoop, no vinyl top
70ish Camaro, black vinyl top, #670 on the top

[Carleen]

Originally Posted by Pro Stock John

I've talked to Doug Boyce about Heavy's cars, and he as a fellow racer agrees with me that most people would not add a vinyl top to a car like IV.

I bet Heavy's brother or Carmen Rotunda would remember the history of each car, because I think there were 2-3 first gen Camaros raced with Heavy's name on the car, but maybe some of the cars were sponsored by him but owned by others.

I can also see where some old timers may have been reticent in the past to connect the dots because Heavy may have had assets seized, and well some of those cars maybe changed hands before that happened.

Just from looking around, I come up with this list:

68 Camaro, orange, vinyl top, grump lump, 427 numbers on the scoop
68 Camaro, former IV car (some say it's the orange one in many of Heavy's pics)
Green Camaro, Carmen's car
69 Camaro, White with orange or red stripes and snorkel hood scoop on SSTs
69 Camaro, orange, black vinyl top, Mopar or Grump lump hood scoop,
70 Camaro, tiger stripes, supposedly a former BM car, grump lump style scoop, no vinyl top
70ish Camaro, black vinyl top, #670 on the top

Cars with Heavys name or had J&L Racing Enterprice on them was own by Rufus Boyd.
Johnny Boyd made that clear when some guys were saying that their dad (that was Drivers) own some Cars.
68 Camaro orange ex Grumpys
68 Camaro Green Rotondas (Heavys)
69 Camaro (only one) Orange, White
70 Camaro Tiger Stripe ex Dipalma
70 Camaro orange ex Harrell

[Carleen]

No pictures of the 69

[Pro Stock John]

So did IV maybe evolve like this?

[Pro Stock John]

That's the first pic I've seen of the green Camaro thanks for sharing.

If one of you guys are friends with Heavy's brother ask him if they added a vinyl to the Grump IV car or not.

[Carleen]

No need to ask.
Read the text under the picture and look at the picture

[Carleen]

Here you have more pictures of the green Camaro

[EZ Nova]

Originally Posted by Carleen

No need to ask.
Read the text under the picture and look at the picture

I was thinking that too, before you posted. When was that statement made about it being an EX-Grumpy car? So here we are speculating the Toy IV info, along with the other Toy IV that is being presented, but here is an account that Brooklyn got Toy IV from back in the day.

Maybe that's exactly why they added the roof, so to confuse people that it wasn't Toy IV??