I need help to authenticate a LS6 Convertible

[L78 ELCAMINO]

Some time back I looked at a unrestored, unmolested, LS6 Chevelle Convert that Chris had also looked at according to the owner. The car was so original it looked like a bolt had never been removed. As soon as I figure out how I will post some photos including the untouched engine stamp.

[musclecarjohn]

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I rarely judge a person's character, but is anyone else starting to think Dave is the owner or a broker for this car? Just my personal observation. Please don't take this the wrong way.

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what was your first clue...?

[Bill Pritchard]

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Ain't a court in the land that could convict the seller of that car based on evidence.

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Lynn Bilodeau ('Lynn' on this board) just might disagree with you on that

[Musclecarkid]

"Ain't a court in the land that could convict the seller of that car based on evidence"........It seems to me a fellow sold someone here a repro crossram hood as NOS and everyone was up in arms contacting the FBI etc,and the seller now is in jail. Yet on a 150K sale of a 40K malibu,its no big deal? Is the double standard due to the fact a non member bought the Ls6???

[SuperNovaSS]

Who went to jail?

Jason

[Stuart Adams]

These are reasons why original cars should be worth way more (like Steves COPO camaro) than restored even if in half the shape, IMO. Scarry world, counterfitting is everywhere. They check money at the cash register don't they.

[zap]

Just curious but who in their right mind would suggest that a Malibu convert with a LS6 drivetrain, which is what this car more than likely started out as, would be worth 150k..today, tomorrow or ever??? I think if you feel this way you are living in "dream land" and forgetting that this market, much like other recent markets, isn't the "norm" but a historical annomoly..If you don't feel the prices will recind once this market goes away, I suggest you go back and look at prices in the late 1980's..LS6 cars were selling for 90-100k then for restored cars...So if the market never reverts back and prices do not go backwards then why is it only now, some 3-4 years into this latest market that LS6 prices are at the same level?

Isn't this one of the biggest problems with Chevrolet musclecars in the first place...no way to truly document the cars except paperwork.If you accept that technology consistently allows the manufacture of things to improve, and the discrepancy between an original and a repro to get closer...isn't it only a matter of time before the paperwork "manufacured" today gets to the point where it can't be detected?? Look at it this way...15 years ago most people in this hobby could tell repro parts from NOS..whether they were emblems, door handles, carpet, etc..Now as a result of technology the repro parts aren't nearly as detectable..and in most cases if you put a repro part in an original box, they are indectable...Paperwork is sure to follow. Since of the "big 3" GM really didn't include engine or option info within the serial number of the cars...some exceptions noted as the serials are known...the greatest area for abuse is from a GM car.

Therefore in my opinion in another 10-15 years most buyers of these cars, will not be willing to pay more for "original" as at that point the possibilty of buying a real car will have greatly demenished. Unfortunatly these cars were mass produced and were not destined to be collectible in the 1st place...

[Late BrakeU2]

That you John Wayne?

[Jeff H]

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Just curious but who in their right mind would suggest that a Malibu convert with a LS6 drivetrain, which is what this car more than likely started out as, would be worth 150k..today, tomorrow or ever???

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It's not about it being a smart buy, it's about a buyer buying what he wants. This has been happening for the past couple of years. If a guy can't afford a $500K LS6 conv then he will buy a well done $150K clone. Look at the Yenko clones selling for 1/3 price of a real Yenko. No difference if it's a Yenko clone or an LS6 clone. If it's built well with dated correct parts then someone will buy it. And it's happening today!

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

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....Isn't this one of the biggest problems with Chevrolet musclecars in the first place...no way to truly document the cars except paperwork...... Since of the "big 3" GM really didn't include engine or option info within the serial number of the cars...some exceptions noted as the serials are known...the greatest area for abuse is from a GM car...

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This perspective could also be used to explain why the real & rare GM cars don't seem to bring as much money as the other mfgr's - to much inherent risk of being false.