Baldwin COPO

[COPO]

With the snippets I've seen posted here and there, seems like a good chance it's the real deal, but it's hard to follow as everything is scattered, so perhaps a comprehensive thread showing all the photographic, paperwork, and timeline evidence in one place laid out in a logical manner would be useful.

Of course with multiple statements from both Joel and Marty they were unaware of the COPO program cast a shadow on the story. I heard them both say this at the SCR they attended during the banquet dinner.

I do recall a full color article on an Orange SS RS car in HP Cars magazine, where they drove it to the track and bolted on slicks. I seem to recall the article was titled "fun for a day". I have the magazine somewhere, but not handy at the moment.

With that said, unless you're selling, you don't have to prove anything to anybody.

[Steve Shauger]

Originally Posted by COPO

With the snippets I've seen posted here and there, seems like a good chance it's the real deal, but it's hard to follow as everything is scattered, so perhaps a comprehensive thread showing all the photographic, paperwork, and timeline evidence in one place laid out in a logical manner would be useful.

Of course with multiple statements from both Joel and Marty they were unaware of the COPO program cast a shadow on the story. I heard them both say this at the SCR they attended during the banquet dinner.

I do recall a full color article on an Orange SS RS car in HP Cars magazine, where they drove it to the track and bolted on slicks. I seem to recall the article was titled "fun for a day". I have the magazine somewhere, but not handy at the moment.

With that said, unless you're selling, you don't have to prove anything to anybody.

COPO, I respectfully disagree with your last statement. Carleen has presented this car as a COPO based on his opinion. Also I believe there have been facts and evidence provided by members that bring into question what the car was born as and history.

[COPO]

Originally Posted by Steve Shauger

COPO, I respectfully disagree with your last statement. Carleen has presented this car as a COPO based on his opinion. Also I believe there have been facts and evidence provided by members that bring into question what the car was born as and history.

My point is Carleen can state whatever he wishes and people can also choose to disagree, but unless he's selling or trying to get his car officially certified, he doesn't have an obligation to prove his opinion to anyone. Anyone is free to have their own opinions of his car.

If he wants others to accept his opinion, then he would need to post evidence to convince others his opinion is correct. So far, this doesn't seem to be the case, hence my suggestion to show his evidence in a more organized manner rather than the snippets here and there.

Personally, my guess it was an L-78 from the factory as Joel and Marty both stated they never knew about the COPO program. It does seem to be Heavy's car based on the paint and lettering he said he has found, but better evidence of this would be helpful.

[Steve Shauger]

My point is when a car is represented as something on this site, especially a COPO there will be a healthy discussion. In this instance it is very clear this car is not a COPO. It is irrelevant whether it's being sold now or not, the true heritage, identity and history is important!

I have a Baldwin Automotive delivered car and one of the first things I did was contact Joel Rosen. He confirmed it wasn't prepped by Motion.

This site and CRG represent the authority on COPO's and our goal is maintain our integrity. A lot of time and effort goes into verifying and maintaining our COPO Registry.

[Carleen]

Written on Firewall
427 425 Special Order 427
427 425 L BLU S SYC
M22

[COPO]

Originally Posted by Steve Shauger

This site and CRG represent the authority on COPO's and our goal is maintain our integrity. A lot of time and effort goes into verifying and maintaining our COPO Registry.

Completely agree if he submits for inclusion in the COPO Registry then he would have to prove a COPO pedigree and it's important to maintain a high bar for the registry.

Based on the documents now posted by a member, it's clear it is not a factory COPO 427 car, but instead is a dealer transplanted 427 car which is still quite cool.

[DW31S]

The last ‘69 Camaro I owned was a 980 mile ex-NHRA Super Stocker that Bill Izykowski bought new from Reedman. It is an “01B” car, that was originally a 53 50 two-tone paint Glacier Blue/White roof with Blue standard interior. 396/350 horse stick that Bill ran in SS/H.
Trim tag reads “X22” and body number about 500 units before this one. I sincerely hope Carleen’s car is what it is claimed to be, but the one I had bears many similarities and was definitely not a COPO. I have pics of the tag and the car dressed in ‘69 livery if anyone wants to see them.

[Carleen]

Originally Posted by DW31S

The last ‘69 Camaro I owned was a 980 mile ex-NHRA Super Stocker that Bill Izykowski bought new from Reedman. It is an “01B” car, that was originally a 53 50 two-tone paint Glacier Blue/White roof with Blue standard interior. 396/350 horse stick that Bill ran in SS/H.
Trim tag reads “X22” and body number about 500 units before this one. I sincerely hope Carleen’s car is what it is claimed to be, but the one I had bears many similarities and was definitely not a COPO. I have pics of the tag and the car dressed in ‘69 livery if anyone wants to see them.

You cant see on the Trim Tag if it is a COPO or not

[Carleen]

More BM COPOs

[GotGrunt]

Originally Posted by Carleen

More BM COPOs

Although this car appears to be a COPO, it is 100% not a “Baldwin Motion” it was an out of state customers car that was driven to Motion for modification.

Me pointing this same car out in a previous thread:

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showpost...89&postcount=9

Martyn’s response to that car:

https://www.yenko.net/forum/showpost...3&postcount=11