I need help to authenticate a LS6 Convertible - Page 5

**Charley Lillard** · #41 07-21-2006, 02:01 AM

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CHRIS WHITE IS PROBABLY THE GUY WHO BUILT IT. I THINK THIS GUY DAVE KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING.

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Don, are you accusing Chris of something ? Chris is who I send people to when they ask me about LS6 converts or parts and this is the first hint of anything negative I have ever heard about him.

LVCamaro · #42 07-21-2006, 02:24 AM

I hope you're joking, Don

...Chris White is a stand-up guy, IMO.

SS

GTO_DON · #43 07-21-2006, 02:27 AM

No Charlie,I would never acuse him of any wrong doing. I have heard of him and know he is a real knowledgable person when it comes to chevelles. Someone told me that he does do cars for people now and then but I do not know anything about this car or mean to disrespect Chris. I just think this guy Dave knows him and think he's a little smarter than led to believe. Maybe he's just testing the waters here to see wht you guys know. Again I mean no disrespect.

**SS427** · #44 07-21-2006, 04:21 AM

Chris does do some cars and is doing at least two right now that I am aware of. One is his convertible that I am sure will be the best of the best when completed. I got to spend some time with Chris earlier this summer at Chad's and the guy is amazing. Pick a part and he will not only tell you the part number but likely the superceeded part and the dates the assembly line changed over to a different configuration. All off the top of his head. Quite the teacher to say the least but also and extrememly honest guy.
Rick

**njsteve** · #45 07-21-2006, 05:17 AM

Three seperate unrelated points here:

1) Nice car looks neat.

2) It's fraud when you represent a car as something it is not and have paper made up to substantiate your fraudulent misrepresentation. If there's evidence to establish the seller created the car or doctored the docs to make it an LS6 and then represented it as one when he sold it, he's in a world of trouble liability-wise in a civil suit for money damages.

3) Since the value is well above the minimum standard for wire fraud or mail fraud, if the car is fake he is also criminally prosecutable for a 5 or 10 year Federal prison sentence since he most likely used a telephone, the internet or the mail for some part of the transaction.

class dismissed.

**Steve Shauger** · #46 07-21-2006, 05:18 AM

A true "expert" of chevelles, and a genuine and honest guy. He has always been willing to share his knowledge to help me and many others as well.

Musclecarkid · #47 07-21-2006, 07:12 AM

I rarely judge a person's character, but is anyone else starting to think Dave is the owner or a broker for this car? Just my personal observation. Please don't take this the wrong way.

Stuart Adams · #48 07-21-2006, 07:23 AM

**Late BrakeU2** · #49 07-21-2006, 07:32 AM

That's certainly the right mindset but the problem with burden of proof is just that.Ain't a court in the land that could convict the seller of that car based on evidence.You could hire Jerry for expert camaro testimony but last time I checked there wasn't anyone making a tidy sum flying across the country representing burned Chevelle buyers.The time is quickly approaching that there will be no way to de bunk a restored car one way or the other-once that happens it's not a stretch to see overall interest(let alone valuations)suffer as a result.Counterfitters have been getting free tuition through TC and this site,there most likely will never be a PHS equivalent for these cars,it's open season,and they're springin up like daisys.Some of the foremost authorities on these are members here-they already know not to disseminate build sheets and specific production info but it's incumbent on everyone for the good of the hobby($?)to PM sensitive info. Some may laugh at that notion but cleary the fox is in the coop(or coupe in our case)and he goin to do some damage.If I didn't own one of these I would not be on my soapbox but given the circumstances it's pretty fertile ground for the disingenuous.This thread was a fishing expedition,nothing more.
jmho

RamAirDave · #50 07-21-2006, 08:34 AM

Just a thought:

I have no doubt that the "crooks" are reading this and other sites gaining all the knowledge they can.

Sure, many have been caught. Some easier to spot than others. But how do we know for sure that some aren't spot-on? How many docs/tags/etc. are out there that would pass (or have passed) by even the most knowledgable "experts"? I guess that is only known by those that are producing the fake stuff.

There may be none out there that are exactly right, I dont know. But I sure wouldnt doubt it if some out there are and only a select few know about it.

Like I said, just a thought.

dave

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