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Yes,in part I was referring to Ed's Web sight as some other members added up the numbers of cars sold and used that as absolute info, but I also have copies of some of the famed Inventory hand written sheets which show Yenko Chevrolet as the selling dealer when it wasn't. |
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I've read that artical a long time ago.Was just wondering if anybody has had their car checked with a gigercounter to see if any of that radio active stuff that was in the back lot was still in the car? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif[/img]
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Stefano;
I'm sure there were some cars sold out of other dealers when the inventory sheets say Yenko, but there are also several cars sold out of Yenko when the sheets say other dealers (Yunkers for eg). So, although not completely accurate as to the selling dealer, the info suffices for this discussion. The rough count that I did for the cars sold out of Douglass showed all but one were X66 cars, therefore it appears that he got one of the first shipments like we have all agreed on, but not many more - in fact, the non X66 car may be a replacement? Who knows, one thing appears clear, Douglass Chev. was not a high volume Yenko SportsCars dealer when compared to other dealers in the network - I didn't count Yenko Chev. when I listed the other higher volume dealers, maybe I should! Douglass certainly had the potential to be one of the higher volume dealers, but he decided to sell COPO cars instead [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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To the buying & driving public in Chicagoland Marlin,if they were sold as Yenkos they were YENKOS. These cars found their way into all parts of a very large market area, and were seen by a large portion of the target audience, including me. That's all that counted from a market penetration, and, advertising standpoint. I'm not going to guess whether he did or didn't count them, but, he was justified in doing so if he chose to. Knowing how marketing oriented he was, the tendency of that mindset is to inflate the figures using any justification possible. With that in mind, Don may not have been totally happy with the arrangement, but, once that was the only way to get his product into Chicago, it would make sense to enjoy the benefits, and, take full credit for the cars being sold as "HIS" products.
Let's not forget that most business deals are based on mutual benefit, but, where neither party is totally satisfied with the terms. |
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Tom....the key word in my sentence was Chicago....it's logical that JD sold the most COPO's in Chicago.
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I understand the marketing side of things, and agree that showing a particular number of units sold can be used to show popularity of a given product. However, for someone to attempt to read that silly sign as an inclusion of these JD cars is a super stretch! We know that Don pumped up his numbers for a variety of reasons, which is why we go back to the written records - although not perfect, they are better than anyones memory.
Mike, are you suggesting that because the driving and buying public in Chicagoland believed that these cars were Yenko's - they are indeed Yenko's? I'm not sure what you meant with that statement, so can you clarify?
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Yes, I can clarify what I said all along. I think that's about 18 or more thread pages ago. I believe that if a car was sold as a Yenko by Douglass, with some evidence of that fact, that car should be recognized as a "Yenko Camaro" or, at the very least, a Douglass*Yenko Camaro.
Now, I have said my peace, presented my thoughts on the arrangement, and, clarified my position. There will never be a consensus on this subject, so, why do we insist on rehashing this subject over & over? I think we all respect each other's right to an opinion, so, why can't we just leave it at that? I for one, am finished discussing this subject. Again. |
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Ok, settle down, I was just hoping to have swayed you a little bit, but we are where we began - which is just fine, just two different perspectives.
[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img] It is bound to get interesting when various pieces of memorabilia are being utilized to support a particular side of this subject. I think the non-confrontational dialogue of this post is a step forward, makes for better reading and easier understanding of the two views.
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it's logical that JD sold the most COPO's in Chicago. [/ QUOTE ] Am still curious how you can say this, without some sort of documentation to back it up. This is not to say that it is not true, but until we get access to Chevy's records, I see no way of knowing for sure. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/dunno.gif[/img]
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If Douglass cars are not "real" Yenkos, because the stripes/badges (as supplied by Yenko) were installed at Douglass, then maybe Cannonsburg cars are not "real" Yenkos, unless Don personally installed the stripes/badges. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
I don't know if any exist, but would a stripe delete Cannonsburg Yenko be just a COPO? That is not a slam against COPOs, just meant as a differentiation. Anyway, I'll bet that Don is still pi$$ed at the employee who left the COPO paperwork in that first batch of Douglass-bound Yenkos!! |
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