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Old 07-19-2007, 12:21 AM
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WW...great car, amazing that it still exists and really love how it's a post car!!!

I remember reading those stories too...Wangers sure had some 'hair raising' experiences!.

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Old 07-20-2007, 09:36 PM
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Thanks, Pete.
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Old 07-22-2007, 06:10 AM
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Default Re: Tenney's 64 Wangers GTO...

Did you really mean "factory fitted" 421s?
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Old 07-25-2007, 04:23 AM
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Did you really mean "factory fitted" 421s?

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Yes, do you know of one (or more)?
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:52 PM
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Default Re: Tenney's 64 Wangers GTO...

That is one bad a$$ package you have there Tenney. How does it run today compared to your old L88?
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Old 07-25-2007, 10:59 PM
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Thanks, Stefano. There's more cam, compression and gear in the Goat, though a bit tough to compare as I've never tried it w/proper meats out back. That, and I really don't grab it by the throat as fiercely as maybe some of the other stuff - but it's not boring.
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Old 07-26-2007, 07:15 AM
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Default Re: Tenney's 64 Wangers GTO...

I thought the 421 was installed at Royal, not at the factory.
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Old 07-26-2007, 10:22 AM
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Default Re: Tenney's 64 Wangers GTO...

Jim Wangers told me the car went from the line to engineering over a weekend for the 421 HO install - then went to Royal to be "Bobcatted".

Per Jim, this motor was damaged in Florida during the C&D test, and replaced with another 421 HO upon return to Royal - again by Pontiac engineers.

There's a Royal receipt dated 11/17/67 (signed by service tech: "Milt") for the 428 that's in the car now. 9770716 heads built '63-'64, so could be original to the car?

Still curious if there were any others done. Jim says the blue car was a 389. That he also said so few knew of the 421 install in this car (three guys plus the two in engineering) - and the level of approval it took to make it happen - seems unlikely there are many, if any.
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: Tenney's 64 Wangers GTO...

Very cool story, and, a great car. I must have been misinformed a few years ago when it was for sale. I'm a big Royal fan, and, yours is one of the best.
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: Tenney's 64 Wangers GTO...

Thanks. I'd thought same prior to speaking w/Jim about the "Memo 198 Tag Wangers" printed along the bottom of the build sheet. Listening to him tell the stories of his time with the car - best retold by him, btw - couldn't have been cooler.
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