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Old 11-09-2003, 12:03 AM
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Old 11-09-2003, 01:51 AM
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The owner has allowed me to post the PHS, sweet........

First a couple of things: If you will review Pete McCarthy's words of wisdom concerning SD cars in his book, I believe you will find he points out they were listed as "memo" and "spec equip". My copy is at work, so I can't verify that %100.

Second: Bill Knafel has stated that all cars delivered to him back door from The Hobby Shop (Pontiac Engineering/Racing), were delivered with headers. This doesn't have any bearing on proof, but the owner wanted me to mention it. Don't let the pricing on the PHS throw you off in your conclusion.

Now the VIN has been sprayed out at the owners request. He has much more on the car, hopefully he will respond soon.

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Old 11-16-2003, 11:17 PM
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For the record... Jim M took time out of his Sunday to call me and address my concerns. My apologies to Jim M or anyone that thought I was over line with him. Jim M does appear to be concerned with this subject, and I believe he will do what he can to help Mike and Gary indentify the oddities surrounding the two cars.

As I stated before, I DO appreciate what GM has done by allowing Jim M to have access these records. And I DO appreciate Jim M taking on the responsibilty.

We as Pontiac enthusiast are blessed to have PHS.
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Old 11-16-2003, 11:48 PM
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Obviously there is a lot of interest in this topic. I dont know why this isnt being discussed on one of the Pontiac boards but I thank the Chevrolet guys for bearing with us on this. This is about as good as it gets 33 years after the fact.
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Old 11-17-2003, 12:38 AM
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Amen. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

Now I've just popped some Ritalin, so why don't we organize and tally up the info, shall we?

1) There are no documented RAV GTOs
2) As BobcatBob said, if there were, the burdon of proof would be on the believers.
3) Would you believe a '68 Z/28 ragtop without paperwork? So why are some of you so staunch in your belief that there were RAV GTOs?
4) Wangers and Knafel both are legends in their own minds.
5) The memory some people have is not as good as it used to be.
6) JM and PHS right now are the definitive source for PMD history (and NOT someone's memory.)

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Sometime us Chevy guys have to take a break from all the high horsepower Chevrolet engines and talk about Pontiac stuff with you guys for a little while just to catch our breath [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img] !!! (just kidding all you passionate Poncho guys ! I like them too !)
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HI I would say it would be a 25/30k car, but if a concourse car more. <font color="yellow"> </font>
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HI I know a friend of mine has almost the same car in the wisc. area. I would say buy it if you can. I say 25/30 if decent restorable car. But, they are really going up These cars have really taken off lately, saw a green one on e-bay for 42k, fully restored. they made 325 of these RAIV judges.
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Old 11-16-2003, 06:26 AM
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This is getting away form what this site is about (donít post any more) whatís that about [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] and crying because some one does not want to give his info out [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] I have been on this site for about three years and have been learning a lot of new things But why this getting uglier by the minute as far as the RAV what info I have I WILL KEEP TO MY SELF
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