They're still out there (COPO) hiding in plain sight.

[Stefano]

Congrats, nice score. Keep us posted.

[flyingn]

interesting. NE Philly is my neighborhood. What part of Philly?

[Fast67VelleN2O]

Originally Posted by flyingn

interesting. NE Philly is my neighborhood. What part of Philly?

Sitting right off Keystone Street in Tacony section of Philly.

[yellow69RSZ]

Very cool, congrats!!!

[Copo_Cartel]

IMHO ...after your restoration.... with quality parts and quality restoration the end value in today’s current market is $125K. Restorations usually take 18 months. Hope this helps. I enjoy the hunt for parts , and the entire process. If needed I can help with sources.

[bergy]

"COPO" money is a pretty broad range. The best cars have known ownership history, factory/dealer documents, and expert inspection certifications. Original drivetrain is a huge factor.

Even without factory/dealer documentation, this car could bring decent money (IMO) if the owner is willing to get it inspected/certified, and track down the ownership history. Old photos showing it at the track would be a plus. Get delivering dealer info and also check for 9737 attributes.

[GotGrunt]

Originally Posted by bergy

"COPO" money is a pretty broad range. The best cars have known ownership history, factory/dealer documents, and expert inspection certifications. Original drivetrain is a huge factor.

Even without factory/dealer documentation, this car could bring decent money (IMO) if the owner is willing to get it inspected/certified, and track down the ownership history. Old photos showing it at the track would be a plus. Get delivering dealer info and also check for 9737 attributes.

The reason I ask is because if this was a 1970 Chevelle ex-race car in similar condition with a CRW rear in it, a single fuel line, big block steering shaft, and ZL2 firewall piercing but was missing the original motor/trans and did not have a build sheet or other documentation, you’d have a hard time selling it as an LS6 down the road. Let’s just say you hit a dead end with the ownership history or tracking down the original block, then what?

I’m not doubting what this car is, just playing devil’s advocate and also want to educate myself on the general consensus in case I come across something like this in the future. Pretty much all the tell tale signs that the car is a COPO could have been added at any point after the car left the factory, and the X44D80 on the trim tag is not limited to COPOs.

Feel free to correct me if I’m off base here...

[Steve Shauger]

Originally Posted by GotGrunt

The reason I ask is because if this was a 1970 Chevelle ex-race car in similar condition with a CRW rear in it, a single fuel line, big block steering shaft, and ZL2 firewall piercing but was missing the original motor/trans and did not have a build sheet or other documentation, you’d have a hard time selling it as an LS6 down the road. Let’s just say you hit a dead end with the ownership history or tracking down the original block, then what?

I’m not doubting what this car is, just playing devil’s advocate here and also want to educate myself on the general consensus in case I come across something like this in the future. Pretty much all the tell tale signs that the car is a COPO could have been added at any point after the car left the factory, and from what I’ve read, the X44D80 on the trim tag is not limited to COPO cars.

The original poster summed up the identifying points in first post; rear, piercings. throttle arm, dual exhaust plate, ...etc


Next helpful hint is if dealer was a know sell COPO's.

[Copo_Cartel]

First of all....compare the 07A trim tag /body # to other known 07A cars as well as vin #’s. There are so many tell tale signs ...and if you know your way around a 69 Camaro and are mechanic savvy then you will know if it’s been monkeyed with. Hard to fool the old wrench guys.

[GotGrunt]

Originally Posted by Steve Shauger

The original poster summed up the identifying points in first post; rear, piercings. throttle arm, dual exhaust plate, ...etc


Next helpful hint is if dealer was a know sell COPO's.

Originally Posted by Copo_Cartel

First of all....compare the 07A trim tag /body # to other known 07A cars as well as vin #’s. There are so many tell tale signs ...and if you know your way around a 69 Camaro and are mechanic savvy then you will know if it’s been monkeyed with. Hard to fool the old wrench guys.

I know, but my question was if the tell tale signs are enough to prove the pedigree. I guess they are?