Possible Yenko SOLD on e-bay/Second Thread

[x44d80]

This is obviously about how much can be made off this car. I figure 80 to 90k maybe, and I'm sure we'll have alot more people watching Camaro VIN numbers on EBAY from now on! WOW. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]

[Mark_C]

A seller can't just cancel the auction after the fact and put it back on Ebay because he made a mistake. Once the auction ends the deal is done. Just like when you win an auction, the finish of the auction results in a legally (acording to Ebay) binding contract between the seller and buyer. Unless there is some out in the wording of the auction, like subject to buyer inspection or something similar, the winner owns the car as of the close of the auction provided they complete the transaction, ie money changes hands, and the seller has to sell it for the agreed to amount stated at the close of the auction.

If the seller had cancelled all the bids, and cancelled the auction prior to the close then he could have relisted it.

If the buyer reneges, I don't beleive there is any legal requirement to go down the list of bidders and ask them if they want it. Most people do it because these people expressed interest in the item, by bidding on it, and the seller feels this is the easiest way to get rid of whatever it is. There is only one binding contract per auction, anything else is courtesy. Of course in this case the seller was probably glad the buyer initially backed out.

I've contacted a seller after the close of an auction and asked them to get in contact with me if the buyer doesn't come thru before. Check back about a year ago in the Motion Section, about a possible 69 Motion Corvette. I did it because it was local to me, and the car had been in the local auto trader the week before the auction. Don't know who the winner was, or if the car was anything special or not, but the car was picked up by 10AM on Monday, following a Sunday auction close.

https://www.yenko.net/ubbthreads/show...true#Post20452

Looks like some laywers are going to make some money off of this deal.

[Quickrod1]

It is me again. I haven't had time to read everything just yet as of my posting but I wan to add that it was November not May as I said. Sorry for the misprint. Next I never backed out of the deal that I had with Doug the seller! He got badgered into selling to Clint for more money because he needs the money bad. and following all the other email the car is not for sale! I will drive it and enjoy to race it as I continue to persue all the parts to make it a showroom car. Only until then I will restore it. And by the way thanks for all the support from all of you guys out there!!!

Duane

[Mr70]

Good for you Duane! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Glad to see the Car is in a home,and not be shipped around like an Orphan.
By the way,where is Elliott Il.,I have never heard of that town?
Rick

[Quickrod1]

It is a little town of 350 people. As of location I am not telling because of possible thieves! Thanks for the intrest though.

[Mark_C]

Good for you, glad it will be used and driven and not hidden away, although it's going to be tough to do right away with an engine, or running lights. Hopefully you've got a nice big 427 sitting at home.

While some people might try to buy it out from under you, I don't think anyone here would actually come to your house to steal it though. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/no.gif[/img]

[DjD]

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It is a little town of 350 people. As of location I am not telling because of possible thieves! Thanks for the intrest though.

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No disrespect but I got a great laugh out of your comment... A google search turns up 429,000 links related to Elliott Il and the first one is a road map... Like I said no disrespect ment... Congrats on the buy [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

[Clint_69]

Geez qickrod, samllrod or whatever your name is. Are you a little paranoid? Hmmmmmm, It is pretty funny that you would post such a statement about me badgering the seller after our conversation yesterday. I would like to list a few facts here and now I am going to post a couple of the seller' s emails. Here we go:

Fact: You were extremely nice to me yesterday when you found out that the seller still had my money. You stated "I will do everything I can to help get your money back".

Fact: You stated yesterday "screw Doug, I suggest you put the screws to him in court", "he tried to screw everybody" "I just want to get the car to me". You even asked if I could have my friend in NY transport the car. Come on here an tell me that you did not say these things and I will put you in the same class as the seller.

Now today, you are taking the poor Doug attitude. Wow, sounds pretty funny. You are a joke.

Now here we go about the facts regarding this issue:

Fact:The seller stated to me that you backed out and that the car wat still avaliable. Tell Doug to come on to this site and state different. I am posting his emails.

Fact: I did not even make an offer to the seller, I asked him what he wanted for the car and I gave him every dime and he was happy. I did not badger him. The only people who badgered him were the people trying to buy the car after I had the agreement.

Fact: I had a signed purchase agreement and he took my money.

Fact: He still has my money. I am going to sue him to get my money back.

Fact: No one on the web site who was sent an email from the seller stating that the car was still available even had the balls to come out and defend me. Pretty sad when I consider myself a member of this site.

Fact: THE SELLER IS A DISHONEST PERSON! He made at least three deals beyond you.

Here are a couple of emails from the seller word for word. I have not talked to the seller since the last email regarding this issue and after I received this email, I had no problem with the fact that the car was quickrods. These emails state the facts. The seller did not change his mind about selling the car to me or those who were trying to buy it out from under me until he was being threatened with legal action. You even threatened him with legal action because you had a legally binding contract as well. If it were not for that, the car would have gone to the highest bidder because the seller stated that he does not have the money to go through court.

From the Seller:Received on 11/16/03
hi, my number is 607 387 9538, my name is doug..call
asap if you want this car...

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Another:Received on 11/18/03
Clint,im not sure where to start but i will say this.
a mans selfworth is everything. Duane is the high
bidder on the car,actually made a deal with me prior
to end of auction.he could provide emails to prove
this to ebay or whoever needed to see it. plus he did
send me money on the car.all the [censored] started
happening at the end of the auction.little did i know
what i may have(still hasnt been documented)anyhow,i
thought i could get more money for it,it started with
you and went from there.somebody else tryied to buy it
and you talked me out of it by our talk about
honesty.now your still trying to get me to sell it to
you.ive been thinkin a lot about the right thing to do
and that is ...the cars goes to Duane. he won it fair
and square.my binding contract is with him and no one
else.i called him and left a message letting him know
the car is his!the only thing wrong i did was accept
your offer and now im doing the right thing and
refusing it.yaaaa im goin to lose a lot of money,but
at least i know i did the right thing here and thats
what matters.please dont call me to try to change my
mind. call Duane, maybe you can buy the
car from him. if he wants to sell it to you, great!
maybe you can still end up with it. good luck with
your cars, Doug

There you go. Say what you will. I have not spoken to him since. I belive that the only thing that changed his mind was the threat of legal action. He has proven that he was not honest when he made other deals on this car.

Now for the members of this site who have taken stabs at me and insulted my character and integrity. It is a small clique and you know who you are. You do not need me and I do not need you. It is very unfortunate that people who don't even know me or who did not understand the facts in this situation were taking shots. I am 31 years old and have been in this hobby since I bought a TA Challenger 340 six pack car when I was 15. It was not until I owned my first Supercar 1 year ago that I had a problem with anyone in this hobby and I mean anyone. I have felt a great sense of isolation since owning these cars and most people have fallen into one of a few groups of people. It is very sad to say that there is very little sence of community among the new and old members of this board. People want to be affiliated with a group or organization because they feel like they belong. Tom Clary, allot of people do not feel like they belong on this site, good honest people. It is sad to say, but the group of people who feel they are a member of this site keeps geting smaller and smaller until finally, it will hurt the hobby and this site will dicipate. Allot of the reasons that people will even look at these threads anymore is to see who is fighting, who cant get to a rare car the quickest when it is posted for sale or to BS about non Supercar related material. That is why the site is losing so many valuable members. In closing, people will probably care less about my comments and things will continue to be the way they are. I do not think that anybody is really thinking about the future of this site or the hobby. Let the bashing begin as so many ex-members have said.Best wishes. Clint

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[Steven J]

I'm curious what people think that it would cost to restore this car. Other than the VIN, trim tag and the body shell, it seems that there are very few of the original components remaining.

Good luck on the ownership issue.............