69 Pontiac Firebird and GTO- Hot, Hotter ,Hottest

[turbo69bird]

Originally Posted by auwrestling

69 Firebird with ram air code 611 option had driver control flaps at the scoop openings in upper pan , very similar to GTO

A trans am RAIV wouldn’t have the cable but a bird RAIV does .

Just didn’t want people to see Trans ams for sale and think it’s incorrect to not have the cable .

[bergy]

�� thanks - didn’t know that :-)

[auwrestling]

Originally Posted by turbo69bird

That car is spectacular wish there was more detail pics of it.
Such an amazing time capsule of a RAIV car.
I had always thought it was radio delete like mine. Maybe that’s muscle collectors car?
I thought the special order axle on top of the safe T track HD, meant 4.33 gears Vs 3.90? Is that just if there’s another line on the PHS ?

Really impressive car 👍

My car does not have special order axle thus 3:90s . 4:33 gears with raiv internals caused many engine failures

[turbo69bird]

Originally Posted by auwrestling

My car does not have special order axle thus 3:90s . 4:33 gears with raiv internals caused many engine failures

It’s was the words (& special order axle) on the window sticker that made me ask that . I’d have to dig out my window, sticker but didn’t think mine was worded that way. (from
Memory)
In pretty sure my PHS just says safety- track -HD

I thought there was a Special line on PHS similar to that for 4.33 compared to 3.90
Maybe mine reads the same way on the window sticker . That line was curious to me though.
Good to know that’s what a 3.90 would read.
I wonder if a 4.33 would be worded differently on a window sticker there’s been some questions as to if any 68 69 birds came w the 4.33 but there definitely some axles w the correct code out there. And I’ve seen listings for cars used from the early 70s w that axle but could have been installed .
I find the 4.33 bird thing interesting .

Seems the a PHS reads different for different parts of the year as well . As w the case for the decor group after March 17th .

[turbo69bird]

Here’s my window sticker
Just done a little different on the paperwork

[auwrestling]

Originally Posted by turbo69bird

It’s was the words (& special order axle) on the window sticker that made me ask that . I’d have to dig out my window, sticker but didn’t think mine was worded that way. (from
Memory)
In pretty sure my PHS just says safety- track -HD

I thought there was a Special line on PHS similar to that for 4.33 compared to 3.90
Maybe mine reads the same way on the window sticker . That line was curious to me though.
Good to know that’s what a 3.90 would read.
I wonder if a 4.33 would be worded differently on a window sticker there’s been some questions as to if any 68 69 birds came w the 4.33 but there definitely some axles w the correct code out there. And I’ve seen listings for cars used from the early 70s w that axle but could have been installed .
I find the 4.33 bird thing interesting .

Seems the a PHS reads different for different parts of the year as well . As w the case for the decor group after March 17th .

It would be very rare and interesting to find a 69 Firebird with a 433 rear from the factory and probably never happened. I would also say that it’s definitely a lot more reliable to go with the Phs vs window sticker when it comes to the wording on some of these items

[RamAirBirds]

Silver/Black Interior Ram Air IV 4 spd.
Hub Cap Car / Radio Delete Car.

[Steve Shauger]

Originally Posted by auwrestling

It would be very rare and interesting to find a 69 Firebird with a 433 rear from the factory and probably never happened. I would also say that it’s definitely a lot more reliable to go with the Phs vs window sticker when it comes to the wording on some of these items

Matt, what I've been told was RAIII could be ordered with 433, but RAIV only came with 390. Is that correct?

[RamAirBirds]

My understanding is that there were NO Firebirds ever produced with 4:33 axles. There has been much discussion on this on the forums in the past. I am certain Matt will confirm this as well.....Matt?

[Steve Shauger]

This is a window sticker of a car I used to own. Another expensive RAIV that was optioned very well.