Old style cragar ss vs the new style ss

[Day2_69Z]

a nice set of 15 x 4's. for a good deal is a double intondra.....
ain't. happening....
Brent had a pair, Rechromed at Paul's
that went for Over a Grand ...
most flawed, tarnished or lightly pitted ones go for 5 bills give or take....

we can always hope.

[Salvatore]

a pair just went on Ebay direct bolt for $580.00 with tires.
I just bought round spoke versions (unilug) that are real nice for under $400.00 shipped a few weeks ago.
Gotta keep your eye out.

60's cars could still get unilug wheels because not everybody bought the wheels in 1969 for a 69 car immediately.
Pumping gas or paper root money did not pay that much so you had to save up for that kinda stuff. had to pay insurance before you could buy Speed Shop accessories.
Also, I have been running unilug and direct bolt wheels for over 40 years and mine never came off or even worked loose on the street or drag strip.

[camarojoe]

Sure you could have bought uni-lug Cragars for your new 69 several YEARS later, but that's certainly not a "day 2" wheel by definition. Day 2 Cragars should be versions made at (or very near) the time the car itself was made.

[67 Nova Boy]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: camarojoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sure you could have bought uni-lug Cragars for your new 69 several YEARS later, but that's certainly not a &quot;day 2&quot; wheel by definition. Day 2 Cragars should be versions made at (or very near) the time the car itself was made. </div></div>

Most of the guys that bought these cars back in the 60's/70's were not making the money to buy these DAY 2 parts the same year that they came out. Cape cod one car garage house that had a guy leaning on the trunk...shirt off working 65 hours a week to own these cars. I for one was there and had these cars and it took me months or even a year or two to get the speed parts that I wanted for the car. Side pipes/Cragars/Hooker headers/Edlebrock Manifolds/Hurst shifters/Lakewood traction bars and so on...Sam is right on what and how to judge what happened back then and what is ample time for these parts to get on these hi-po cars. Sam was there...lived it... bought it...raced it. House/kids and marriage was the downing moment for these guys that made them sell their cars. Oh...and the price of gas and the insurance didn't help much.

Why do you think that soo many different magazines were printed about these cars and all the speed parts that were being manufactured during that time period. Do people really think that the average guy could buy a Motion or Nickey or Yenko back in the day...NO way!! No body cared about paperwork for these cars...only paperwork they kept was the Hurst stickers or instructions from the speed part box. Remember guys...these cars were our daily drivers in all kinds of weather. Snow as well! [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/biggthumpup.gif[/img]

Dave
67 Nova Boy

My daily driver that I raced/drove to school. 69 Chevelle SS 396 L78 4-speed {original Monoco Orange with Liquid tire chain}

[novadude]

Geez... tough crowd. 98% of people that look at these new wheels will never know the difference between the original wheels and the modern wheels. The new wheels still capture the basic &quot;look&quot;. While I agree that the originals look better, there is something to be said about having a brand new wheel with no rust or hidden damage if you are actually driving or racing the car.

[Salvatore]

When we judge Day-2 at MCACN they tell us to try to stay with a 1 year or so time frame on the Day-2 parts. Without dismounting the tire from the wheel and looking at the date its tough to see if that unilug/straight lug wheel is within the one year or so time frame. The flat spokes are a dead give-a-way. I personally tend to go a little further in the process because those Day-2 parts took a couple years at times to reach the cars back then. Some Speed Shop parts that were originally on my nova did not come out to the early 70's or so. Torquer intake manifolds , Cragar Super Tricks, tall valve covers etc. I even believe header mufflers were a product of the early 70's. Its a tough call on the time frame of these old parts.

[69 Post Sedan]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: [email protected]</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When we judge Day-2 at MCACN they tell us to try to stay with a 1 year or so time frame on the Day-2 parts. Without dismounting the tire from the wheel and looking at the date its tough to see if that unilug/straight lug wheel is within the one year or so time frame. The flat spokes are a dead give-a-way. I personally tend to go a little further in the process because those Day-2 parts took a couple years at times to reach the cars back then. Some Speed Shop parts that were originally on my nova did not come out to the early 70's or so. Torquer intake manifolds , Cragar Super Tricks, tall valve covers etc. I even believe header mufflers were a product of the early 70's. Its a tough call on the time frame of these old parts. </div></div>

^^^^^X2^^^^^ Thanks for the input Sam!!!

[camarojoe]

Bottom line is uni-lugs look better than modern Cragars, but definitely weren't made or sold in 69/70 or even 71. If you bought any style of Cragars in those years they had round holes and were a direct fit.

[67 Nova Boy]

Joe...agree 100%

Straight lugs are the best but real hard to find now a days.

Dave
67 Nova Boy

[Salvatore]

Very good points Dave.

So that is the &quot;bottom line&quot; folks.