E-Bay '69 Yenko Disguised As a Z-28 Clone!

[YENKO DEUCE REGISTRY]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: COPO140</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have said all there is to say. No cowl induction piercing, no mounting holes for the relay, no hidden vins to match the Yenko vin in the dash, no 427/425, no original muncie, no BE, no cowl tag, etc. I think that its absolutely clear as to what the car is and Im not sure I can lend anymore info. It is what it is, a rebody. Nothing more nothing less. As long as it is represented as such, I see no issue. It may have a dash cluster and a subframe from an original car but thats about it. Hardly enough to make a real Yenko from. If you want others peoples opinion as to what the car is, just ask. Not being elusive or cavalier, just stating the facts. So, just state the car is a rebody and move on. </div></div>

I would have to agree with the statements made by COPO140, and I don't know him from 'Adam'. I can't think of a story, or history that will un-rebody this car. Apparently, the rebody aspect was known by prominent folks in the hobby at least 10-12 years ago. Had I been one of them, I certainly would not have searched so hard for this car myself - if I had found it, I would have run for the hills!

Bergy, I'm stunned to read your post about '... its just missing some firewall details...' Those 'details' should not be deemed trivial or inconsequential!

[bergy]

I think that I'm beginning to agree with Jason - if it's OK with you Tom, I'll continue to pursue the car's history and complete my due dilligence. I will have a complete, continual ownership record of the car (Yenko) from new I'll let the whole community know what I find out and back it up with photographs, names and sworn statements. It's way too early to put this to bed.

[musclecarjohn]

Good luck to you bergy...

[talwell]

Interesting discussion indeed. This will follow the ongoing dispute as that what is a rebody and what is original. At what point does a car lose its original identity? What key components does it take to still retain this identity and what reasonable exceptions can be made to allow the car to retain its original personality.

I think each car needs to be looked at based on its own merits. For example, with this car if you have the whole history on the car and one of the previous owners will provide a statement that the car was wrecked and the firewall was replaced in my opinion I would still consider this a genuine car. If it was found to be that the vin was just transferred over to a completely different complete body than I would say it has lost its identity.

This is like ZL1 #61 - didnt that car have a completely replaced cowl, firewall and lower firewall without matching hidden vins but still wears the original vin? Isn't there a credible and documented history to back this and therefore the car can still be considered genuine?

Lets all let history tell the story and set the stage for this one. With only 200 original Yenko cars - even the mere fragment of one deserves to have every avenue explored and be given the utmost possible consideration to be reconstructed.

[hep1966]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: talwell</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

This is like ZL1 #61 - didnt that car have a completely replaced cowl, firewall and lower firewall without matching hidden vins but still wears the original vin? Isn't there a credible and documented history to back this and therefore the car can still be considered genuine?

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Agreed. I also fully believe that if someone else (read as a more frequent poster) bought the car, then they would be encouraged and not bashed.

[Enoch]

If I had the car I would strip it down to a bare shell and have a true expert in body restorastion come and evaluate it. There is a huge difference in #'s experts and body experts. This way you can fully document what was done to fix the firewall. It will be easy to tell where they seamed the firewall in.

[SuperNovaSS]

First off, I don't know the history of this car. That said, why do you think the original Yenko was wrecked. It is just as possible that the firewall was cut out for racing, etc. Yes, it is also just as possible that the original car was rotting in a field somewhere and the VIN was yanked and put on another shell. But, if the latter was the case, why would they make a Z/28 clone out of the car. It is my hypothesis that the car was raced, the firewall cut out, the Yenko identity was lost and it was repaired with another firewall for street use. Again, only a hypothesis.


Jason

[bergy]

I obviously don't have the answers yet, but everything points to a firewall repair in my mind. I was very encouraged when I discovered that the firewall came from a car that was totaled (from the rear) by a logging truck. Then I asked - why would someone re-body a car onto a totaled body? Anyway, it will be interesting to find out and I'll keep everyone up to date!......to be continued.

[al8apex]

wow, that is all I have to say ... [img]<<GRAEMLIN_URL>>/smile.gif[/img]

this is some pi**ing match

not sure why, but it is interesting to read about these &quot;opinions&quot;

[Steve Shauger]

Bergy, the rebody history seems to be verifiable and well documented based on several posts in this thread. I would suggest that rather than attempting to legitimize the car, research the history, and obtain affidavits from those responsible for the &quot;cowl only scenario&quot; as you suggest. Possibly they have picture of the whole process. I would then present those facts if available and start the discussion from there. I think we are beating a dead horse at this point, unless new information is obtained.